Hi Heinzs, hi Ricardo, hi Jay!
First, I have to agree that the animation was excellent - it's great to
see how you "packaged" the idea. How did you make that (some time ago, I
used Gimp to create animations but it was a tedious task...)?
Now to the more detailed stuff ...
Am Dienstag, den 19.04.2011, 21:11 +0200 schrieb RGB ES:
> 2011/4/19 planas <jsloz...@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 14:56 +0200, Sparkling Specks wrote:
...
> >> In the upcoming 3.4 release there will be an additional button in
> >> dialogs, "Apply," to apply changes made in dialogues without closing
> >> the dialogue. This new button means that now there are five or six
> >> buttons on the bottom of many properties dialogs, "OK," "Apply,"
> >> "Cancel," "Reset," ("Default"), "Help."
Totally agreed, this is a bit too much.
> >> In an attempt to cut that number down again, I want to propose
> >> combining the Apply and Reset buttons. There's a bug about that here:
> >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36112 , an animation to
> >> show the feature (
> >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=45456 ) is attached to
> >> the bug -- please excuse its amateurish execution.
> > My only concern is that many users would not carefully read the button
> > labels and not realize the function has changed.
>
> Agree. Sadly there is not an easy solution for this. A possibility
> would be to "merge" buttons (normal click to accept, long click to
> apply, or add a "menu" to accept button, so if you click on it you
> accept, but with long click a menu opens), but this will only change
> clutter with complexity...
Mmh, I'm currently a bit worried that even Format "Paragraph Style" is
different from Format "Paragraph" ... however, in the current version we
end up with:
OK Apply Cancel Help Reset Standard
Both Reset and Standard are somehow tied to the styles and have to be
kept - but, especially Reset (=Revert) fits nicely to a different kind
of dialog.
Let's assume that any change within this dialog applies the changes
immediately (reasonable with regard to today's computational power). The
dialog itself would be non-modal - and each of the changes has to be put
into the undo stack. Then we can change the buttons and their behavior
to:
Close Revert Help Standard
Close = Closes the dialog (the changes have already been applied)
Revert = Reverts the changes since the dialog was opened (a bit
different to the original reset that resets all changes on the current
tab page)
Standard = same behavior as before
If we would (consistently!) apply rules on Mac OS X or Gnome, then we
might shift the Help button to improve the structure to:
Help Close Revert Standard
The "normal" paragraph dialog may be changed to:
Help Close Revert
How does that sound? Even if we stick with the today's position of
"Help", I think it would be an improvement.
It would be great to have a generic specification for that, so we can
address the developers of all the modules to change the behavior. Anyone
interested in picking this up? Would be excellent and incredibly helpful
- I'm currently unable to work on that. Thanks!
Cheers,
Christoph
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