Aleksandar,

You are welcome and like I said in a reply to one of your emails the Autumn
Season banners did inspire me to do something that I'm not sure that we have
done before. I am almost done with it, the problem is that I do not own the
software that I am making it in and am making it at school. I know of an
open source alternative, but to be honest I just found it and it NEEDS A LOT
of work for me to even think about using it. I hope to have something that I
can show the team by this Saturday, for that is the next time I will go to
DeVry.

Just wanted you to know that you did inspire someone to do something new and
different.

Andrew

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Aleksandar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I want to thank you all for your support. I read all your emails and this
> was great experience so far.
> Tobias, I understand your point but please note one thing, my time is (and
> will probably be this year)
> very limited so I don't have time to create graphic in gimp/inkscape from
> start.
> I used gimp before and would like to use it again and I know about
> inkscape,
> it's always great to learn
> something new,new tool,new language etc. and it's not problem to work with
> these tools but as I said
> I am currently very busy and time doesn't allow me to do all that things.
> My idea was to inspire people to create better graphic, to motivate them.
>
>  I was aware about problem you are talking about. As Christoph said:
> > Why do I say that? Because Aleksandar told me about his tools preference
> > in advance - and as long is able to read PSD files to a certain extend,
> > we should aim for "data exchange compatibility", not "tools
> > compatibility". I've heard many designers who simply prefer to stick
> > with their tools ...
>
>  I sent him email to see will this be a problem. I was happy to join
> Libreoffice
> project and tried to create something new and fresh but I also knew that
> using
> commercial software can be problem in opensource community. I wanted to see
> can I post my work here so other can see it and maybe create better graphic
> or get
> new ideas. This part of email I sent to Christoph (just my part that can be
> shown in
> public,I respect others privacy):
> >I have one very important question. [bold] *I work with Photoshop and all
> graphic I created *
> *>is done with Photoshop. *[/bold] Will that be a problem?
>
> and
>
> >Also, it's not problem for me to upload and send you files but as I said
> all work is done in Photoshop and would
> >like to hear from you will that be a problem.
>
> I  showed that I am interested in this problem and that I wouldn't  post
> any
> work that
> others can see as problem in opensource community. I just wanted to offer
> my
> time
> and experience.
>
>
> My idea was to post some new things on my wiki page and inspire people
> to create new graphic for LibreOffice project, to share it with friends and
> to have
> something "cool" to show them about LibreOffice. Just that. You don't need
> to use
> it,share it or  do anything with it if you don't like it.
> I was inspired and wanted to share that ideas with others.
>
> David,Andrew,Sveinn i Felli,Christoph, thanks for your kind emails. These
> kind of email motivates me to
> work harder and to help opensource projects. Thanks
>
> >  Where have I seen this before...
> http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/happy-birthday-libreoffice.html
> >
> >  ^_^
>
> Thanks Daniel, it's always great to see LibreOffice in the news ;)
>
> I have also posted some new things and ideas on my wiki page:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See
>
>
> I have so many things to say but this email is already way too long.
> Thank you for your time,
> Aleksandar
>
>
>
> 2011/9/29 Daniel Merker <[email protected]>
>
> > Where have I seen this before...
> > http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/happy-birthday-libreoffice.html
> >
> > ^_^
> >
> > Daniel Merker
> > Computer Engineering Graduate Student
> > Wayne State University
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tobias Bernard [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:52 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] New web banners. Feedback?
> >
> > hi
> >
> > maybe there have been some misunderstandings, i had no intention to
> "flame"
> > anyone and think aleksandar is doing a great job.
> > but as i already said and others too mentioned, it *is* a problem, when
> > design is done with proprietary software and no soures are available in a
> > standard format (in our case SVG).
> >
> > i agree that everyone has his favourite tools and is free to use what he
> > wants, but if that means it is not possible changing these files using
> free
> > software, someone should at least be aware of that and the problems it
> > causes. after that it's up to everyone to decide for his own what he
> wants
> > to use, but if he decides to use proprietary software, he should at least
> > export the source file to an open format (SVG if possible) everyone can
> open
> > and edit.
> >
> > in aleksandars case there is kind of a problem doing that, because ps is
> a
> > raster graphics editor, so i don't really know which possibilities there
> > are. btw psd import in gimp is horrible for complex designs. that's not
> > gimps fault, it's because psd is a proprietary format, but it is no
> solution
> > for us.
> > in any way, i highly recommend everyone to use free software from the
> very
> > beginning, so we don't have to deal with such problems in the future.
> >
> > tobias
> >
> >
> > 2011/9/28 David Nelson <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > Sorry, but I disagree with criticising Aleksandar like this.
> > >
> > > 1) We need creative people doing work for our project. I don't really
> > > care what he uses, as long as the format of the source files is
> > > accessible. Sure, it would be great if he was using Gimp or Inkscape,
> > > but Photoshop can output files that can be read with those programs,
> > > and Gimp can read .psd.
> > >
> > > 2) We all have our favorite tools. I run Linux 24/7 on my system, but
> > > I always keep a copy of Photoshop 6/ImageReady installed using
> > > Wine/Crossover Office, simply because I know how to easily do things
> > > with them that *can* be done with Gimp but only in a more round-about
> > > manner. Plus, there are things that Gimp and Photoshop each do
> > > slightly better or worse than the other.
> > >
> > > So I think Aleksandar should be left to use what tools he wants. You
> > > do know that Photoshop is a *very* commonly-used tool among graphic
> > > artists, right?
> > >
> > > So can we stop the flaming in this thread about tools?
> > >
> > > Tobias,Vitorio, when I the same real productive output for the
> > > LibreOffice project from you guys as Aleksandar has contributed, then
> > > you can start bitching. Until then, please let the guy work in peace.
> > >
> > > Thanks. ;-)
> > >
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