Hi Mirek, all! Am Donnerstag, den 31.05.2012, 20:29 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: > 2012/5/31 Christoph Noack <[email protected]> > > Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2012, 16:42 +0200 schrieb Alexander Wilms: > > > actually, the save icon in the top toolbar should be enough, don't you > > > think? It's greyed out if there's nothing to save and makes the > > > indicator superfluous. > > > > Well, that was the case some versions ago - then the current behavior > > (save icon is always active) has been introduced. Reason: There has been > > customer feedback targeted at the Sun OOo UX Team that people wish to > > press that button at any time - just to be sure that the document is > > really saved. So here its not about real logic, but about people to feel > > "safe". > > This is only a setting, and it's disabled by default (at least on my > machine).
Ah, didn't know that. Thanks! Do you know why this is a setting at all? Do we alter the behavior dependent on the platform? > Out of interest, could you point me to the feedback you mentioned? Nope, sorry. It was directly targeted at the OOo UX team (maybe even part of their usability studies). I had some private conversations where they mentioned it (if I remember well enough). > > So, finally, if there is a need to further cleanup the status bar, then > > I'd propose to go with "(unsaved)" instead of the asterisk for the title > > bar. Example for unsaved changes: > > Strategy Document (unsaved) - LibreOffice Writer > > Fine with me, as long as it only happens if the "allow to save document > even when the document is not modified" setting is on. Here I don't fully understand your rationale - I'd go for consistency similar to the document symbol in the status bar (always there). > > Of course there are plenty of alternatives - introducing stuff like a > > proxy icons (similar to Mac OS X), or extending the "Save Icon" by an > > own indicator. Or ... > > To be honest, I feel like this is too much complication to satisfy a very > small fraction of the userbase, at a cost to the general userbase. Every > other application I know disables "Save" when the file is saved, and > there's not any consumer backlash there. Well, I have no strong opinion here - especially if anybody comes up with a decent solution ;-) The point is: adding an asterisk doesn't mean much, the string "(unsaved)" eats some space and also misses the locus of attention of the user, ... Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
