On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Brandon Harris <[email protected]>wrote:

>         RE: Page actions moving into the header: (This is me collecting my
> comments from a meeting to this list)
>
>         As I mentioned in yesterday’s design review, my gut instinct is
> that moving article actions into the header is the wrong path:
>
>                         * I don’t think they’re needed up there. People
> already scroll to the top when they need these functions.
>                         * I think it conflates those actions with the
> “personal bar” actions and creates confusion.  A primary motivation for
> Winter is to segregate the following types of actions:  Site actions
> (sidebar chrome), Content actions (page stuff), and Personal actions (user
> stuff).  The search box is a site affordance.  The personal actions are
> obviously thus.  Mixing article actions next to the personal actions seems
> weird to me.
>                         * The point of discussion being always available
> is a valid one - the use case being, “I’m in this section, and I see an
> error, and I want to talk about it”.  However, I don’t necessarily think
> that dumping the user into the “master” talk page at any point is going to
> solve that.  A long time ago I had the idea to add a “discuss” link next to
> the section edit links.  This would target the specific section and create
> a new discussion with that title (or find an existing one) and work within
> that.  This is obviously something that can easily be done with Flow
> (though my original thoughts were with LQT).  I’m not sure it works well
> with Talk.  This is something I’ll want to experiment with.
>

I agree with those conclusions, and was getting worried about the number of
icons in the current Winter headerbar, once scrolled. 7 ±
2<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_plus_or_minus_two>works.

One possibility would be replacing the current "article actions" icons in
the headerbar, with a "scroll to top" button. It's a commonly requested
feature, and (iirc) is generally turned down because of the sheer quantity
of links that would be added, if they were attached to every section.
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