All the components you mentioned other than the switch to LESS and the 
animations used by hovercards for instance were actually created over a year 
ago before the start of the mediawiki.ui work. I can talk further with the 
developers about the performance issue, but yes, it's only part of the issue. 
As I said before I don't think it fits stylistically with the direction of the 
mediawiki.ui

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On Apr 5, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Erwin Dokter <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 05-04-2014 05:57, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> Nemo, when I say we, I mean the people responsible for the look and
> implementation of mediawiki.ui I've also been informed by the developers
> that drop shadows like the one proposed have a serious performance
> impact, especially on older browsers. The proposed style shown in the
> typography refresh is much simpler from a code perspective as well.

I find that slightly contradictory, when every new UX feature/extension has 
made heavy use of the newest CSS trickery, including transparency, animations, 
fade-ins, rounded corners and drop shadows. Everything that pops up on 
Wikipedia has them: Echo notification, watchlist notifications, ULS popups and 
everything else I can't think of.

With that in mind, the performance argument is a misnomer; older [define?] 
browsers tend not to support shadows anyway, so no problem there. The code is 
also *not* more complicated when done in LESS.

You just don't like the style, that is fine. It was intended to be a local CSS 
framework for templates anyway.

Regards,
-- 
Erwin Dokter


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