On 5/4/07, Mimi Yin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let me see if I can summarize the options here:
NOW
1. The order in which items enter into NOW from 'Just NOW' to 'Old NOW'
2. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from 'Recently
NOW' to 'Old NOW'. If an item has both, event start/date time always
wins.
3. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from 'Recently
NOW to Old NOW'. If an item has both, the 'next, upcoming date' wins.
I think you also have to consider the time/date an item was manually
stamped NOW.
I like #3 for the NOW section.
Open Issue for #2 and 3: How do we sub-sort items that are not events
and do not have alarms set?
What are examples of these kinds?
* Tasks have alarms (due date) - if no alarm set and stamped NOW
put at end of NOW section, all no alarm Tasks together in alphabetical
order
* unstamped Email message has received date and alarms - if no
alarm, group no alarm emails together, put in reverse chron order
(newest arrived emails at the top) at the end of the NOW section.
* Notes have alarms - if no alarm, group no alarm Notes together in
alphabetical order at the end of the NOW section.
I don't like #1 because it is too hard to figure out why the list is
in the order it is - it makes my head hurt, I spend cycles trying to
figure it out instead of paying attention to the events, i.e. this
ordering draws my attention to the tool rather than the work at hand.
For this reason, I recommend that we sub-sort the NOW section by #1.
It approximates how your Email Inbox works, it's sorted in the order
that the messages were sent/received.
LATER
1. In the order in which items will roll into the NOW section. In
other words, By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'Imminently LATER' to 'Far in the Future LATER'. If an item has both,
the 'next, upcoming date' wins.
2. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'Imminently LATER' to 'Far in the Future LATER'. If an item has both,
event start/date time always wins.
In both cases, I would assume that items that are not event and do no
have alarms would be sorted at the bottom as 'Someday Maybes'.
Open Issue: How do we sub-sort the Someday Maybes?
+ In the order they were triaged to LATER?
+ By whatever Date appears in the Date column for each item? Date
created? Date last modified? Date sent/received?
Group them by kind and sub-sort alphabetically as suggested in the NOW
section comments above. Make the sort some obvious rule, i.e. sort on
a field the user can see, not something like item
creation/modification date.
I recommend that we go with #1. If you're scanning your Later section
to get a sense of what's coming up, you want to see everything that
will happen in the next week. If you have an event planned for
September, but you have a custom alarm set on it to remind you to buy
tickets for it by the end of next week, you want to see that item on
the horizon. In a sense, that's why you put that custom alarm on that
event, precisely so you wouldn't forget it about it until September.
I agree with #1.
DONE
1. The order in which items were triaged to DONE.
2. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'Imminently LATER' to 'Far in the Future LATER'. If an item has both,
event start/date time always wins.
3. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'Imminently LATER' to 'Far in the Future LATER'. If an item has both,
the 'most recent date' wins.
I think you have a cut/paste errors here should #2 be:
2. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'recently DONE' to 'Far in the Past DONE'. If an item has both,
event start/date time always wins.
If this is what you meant, I prefer this.
and #3 be:
3. By event start date/time or custom alarm date/time from
'recently DONE' to 'Far in the Past DONE'. If an item has both,
the 'most recent date' wins.
Open Issues for #2 and 3:
+ How do we sub-sort items that are not events and do not have alarms
set? Do they go above or below the items with event date/times and
custom alarms?
I think they should go below to be consistent with the NOW and LATER sections
Emails should sort by received date (if no alarm is set)
+ How should those items be sub-sorted?
- In the order they were triaged to DONE
No, but I still think it would be lovely to add text to the note field
when any item is manually stamped DONE with the date of that
transaction.
; OR
- By whatever Date appears in the Date column for each item? Date
created? Date last modified? Date sent/received?
Yes to whatever Date appears.
I think Pieter has a point that people will remember past items by
their event date/time rather than by their custom alarm date/time. So
I would recommend #2 over #3. However, I still wonder about #1
(assuming we can make it so that when you import/subscribe to a
calendar, most of the items are sub-sorted in the DONE section by
event start-time) because it avoids having to answer the Open Issues.
Mimi
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