At 03:41 PM 1/7/2008 -0800, Jeffrey Harris wrote:
Hi Folks,

Note that this approach puts us in competition with intranet software, CMSes, virtual meeting software, Lotus Notes, and that thing that was made by that guy before he went to Microsoft... Ray Ozzie? What was that thing he had that was a sharing platform? Groove, or something like that? Is it still around?

I think I've read stories about Groove still being popular in the military, because of its encrypted P2P bits.

I agree, focusing on a shared workspace does put us in the same space as all the things PJE mentions. Is that bad? My sense is that people get pretty excited about shared spaces, but with the exception of Groove they're all aimed at *really* large groups.

My sense is that, feature for feature, we don't stack up well against such tools. Either, as you say, they're for large groups, or else there is an increasing tendency towards real-time collaboration, like virtual whiteboards and collaborative editing.


One of the very first problems we'll hit in that space is that our conflict resolution isn't fine-grained enough to support this kind of collaboration unless it's synchronous or there's just one person managing a given project.

I agree that if we're encouraging people to manage small projects as one item's text field, our text field conflict management is inadequate.

Still, I really like the general outlines of Chandler's existing triage workflow, especially as it relates to group project management. If we could prioritize oft-mentioned but never-implemented clusters, I'd be a lot more satisfied, and I think some (though certainly not all) of the impedance mismatch between Chandler's feature set and GTD practitioners desired features would go away.

Clusters might change the frequency with which detail view conflicts happened. I think conflict management for notes fields would still be an issue, but perhaps not so bad that the still-incomplete system wouldn't be useful?

That's certainly a possibility, but I think that before we spend any development resources on implementing such a thing, we'd better know how we'll sell it, and to whom.

My suggestion is that what we need now is a *demo* -- a short walk-through of the application that will sell it to a target audience, to identify rough spots and to sharpen the pitch. We could have more than one, of course, to try out different slants or audiences. But having demos will get us focused on something *concrete*, rather than the general ideas of this feature or that feature. We can talk about whether or not the feature actually helps a specific demo script to achieve its goal.

I recently read an interesting book written in 1937 called "Tested Sentences That Sell": it's a fascinating look at what we might nowadays call elevator pitches. It said that you have about ten seconds to get someone's attention, and three minutes to sell them before they get bored. So three-minute demos sound about right. :)

(Of course, complex software can't be taken all the way to a purchase or setup commitment in three minutes, but all you want in such a case is a commitment to investigate or evaluate the product. That is, the user should decide they want to try it out.)

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