On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 12:10 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > It has not been tested it was too soon to test. Why are people so > afraid of gtk+ 2.7 without even trying it? It really is quite stable > now.
I think it's because in these enlightened times, people use the GNOME stack that comes out of jhbuild or Ubuntu Breezy. Both of these distribution methods are semi-official; jhbuild is meant to have "The next version of GNOME", Breezy is "The next version of Ubuntu", and switching to 2.7 for a trial period *without* having this conversation is ugly and liable to confuse people about what was actually decided. > And Cairo does help developers significantly. Anyone doing any kind > of drawing and printing will know what I mean. Like, imagine how > abiword/gnumeric/criawips would benefit from this. Gnome Print is not > an option for most of these programs simply because it's a "Gnome > library" thus "not cross platform" or "needs gnome". There's a great > bias against gnome libraries nowadays, unfortunately... > > And even if it is slower now, it potencially may become much faster > than current X11 drawing model, perhaps even when gtk+ 2.8 gets > released. Please stop gtk/cairo FUD. Hey hey hey, let's stay calm here. GNOME necessarily works on a short-term-benefit model; the question we need to ask is "Is going to GTK+ 2.8 in less than 6 months *definitely* not going to have any negative implications on that version of GNOME?" And it's a fair question to ask, because last time we did this the answer was "Yes, it did." We're blatantly going to use GTK+ 2.8 by 2.14 at the latest, but GTK+ does work on a cycle with a longer feature-implementing stage, and so necessarily a longer improvements-and-bug-fixing stage. Which is fine. But we need to be careful about it. No-one was implying that Cairo was a Bad Idea (tm), only whether we could be >99% sure of it being as stable as and as fast as the current stable GTK+ in a relatively short timescale. -- Andrew _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
