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On 9/23/07, Travis Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jason, > > Motivation for unpaid Free Software development isn't the same as for > commercial software. You can't just tell someone which project(s) they > get to work on. They will work on which project(s) they think are most > interesting and/or important or they'll choose to do something else with > their time. > > Duplication of effort is frustrating, but that's just how this > development model works. And it's important to note that Pidgin, Ekiga, > and Empathy have different goals and implementations, so it's not like > they're all trying to do literally the same things. Thus any perceived > duplication of effort isn't as bad as it may seem. > > -Travis > > On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 16:00 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > -1 > > > > Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far, > > done better). This is a reimplementation of the wheel. > > > > If the last two Gnome releases are any indication, we are strapped for > > resources - taking on new modules that add absolutely nothing > > features-wise but DO add additional maintenance work doesn't seem like > > a good idea ... for now ... > > > > Maybe in 2.24. > > > > > > On 9/23/07, Xavier Claessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.22 desktop. > > > > * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable > > instant > > messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It > > uses > > Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. > > The main > > goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy > > and > > libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful > > widgets > > that can be embeded into any GNOME application. > > > > * Dependencies: > > glib-2.0 >= 2.14.0 > > gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 > > libxml-2.0 > > gnome-vfs-2.0 > > libtelepathy >= 0.0.57 > > libmissioncontrol >= 4.33 > > gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12.0 > > libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.0 > > libgnomeui-2.0 > > libebook-1.2 > > libpanelapplet-2.0 >= 2.10.0 > > > > * Resource usage: Already using GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME > > bugzilla. > > > > * Adoption: It is packaged at least for debian, ubuntu, > > mandriva, gentoo > > and fedora. It is used by Intel for the moblin [2] platform. > > There is > > patches for Totem and nautilus-send-to [3] to make use of > > libempathy(-gtk). Someone was working on integration in > > gtetrinet but I > > don't know the status of that work. There is also an epiphany > > plugin > > [4]. Work was being done for GSoC to integrate Empathy into > > Jockosher > > [5]. Empathy is also used by Soylent [6]. > > > > * GNOME-ness: The community reports bugs in GNOME bugzilla and > > attach > > patches, I review and commit in GNOME's SVN. Some i18n teams > > already > > started to commit translations. I take care of usability > > thanks to loads > > of usability bugs opened by Vincent Untz. User documentation > > is not > > started yet, I guess we can pick gossip's doc and adapt it for > > Empathy > > since the UI is almost the same. > > > > * Miscellaneous: > > - There is patches to support File Transfer, Voice and Video. > > I think > > it will be ready before GNOME 2.22 feature freeze. > > - Empathy is still a young project with some bugs but I'm > > pretty sure > > we can fix them in time for GNOME 2.22. > > - At some point we'll have same features than Ekiga which is > > already in > > GNOME desktop. The big advantage of Empathy is it uses > > Telepathy > > framework which make easy for desktop integration and means > > we'll have > > VoIP for all protocols (SIP, MSN, Jabber, etc). Empathy > > supports all IM > > features (private chat, chatroom, presence, avatar, alias, > > etc), not > > only Voice and Video. Ekiga don't have those advantages. > > > > Thanks, > > Xavier Claessens. > > > > [1] http://live.gnome.org/Empathy > > [2] http://www.moblin.org/projects_chat.html > > [3] http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=100 > > [4] http://blog.senko.net/2007/07/19/emphatic-epiphany > > [5] http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2007/05/07/jokosher-soc > > [6] http://live.gnome.org/Soylent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > desktop-devel-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > desktop-devel-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list >
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