Hello Emmanuele,

> While I think we can discuss whether the presence of a dock could
> ensure gaining users, I also don't think GNOME needs to "win back"
> users in the first place.

What that's supposed to mean? GNOME doesn't need to get users back?
Just curious, coz I see the opposite. Which obviously isn't matter of a dock
not even matter if GNOME is better or worse than others.

- alex

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Joern Konopka <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hey Sebastien and Alex :)
>
> As you both can see, there are just two emails in this Thread, and we
> already covered the spectrum of opinions.
>
> For my part, you should know that i'm actively working on one of those
> Dock Extension that have been mentioned. But i'm not gonna say that
> everybody should use it. Instead i want to emphasize that i think having a
> Dock in an Extension Scope is the PERFECT solution for a Dock. And here's
> why.
>
> Docks will never make everybody happy. There are too many behaviours
> people expect, too many options, too many positions people argue about.
>
> Take into account that we are moving towards a more and more
> device-agnostic playfield. An (intellhide) Dock just isn't a viable
> solution for a range of Devices. I'm not the guru of anything Gnome is up
> to. But i think including a component that's so complex and also personal
> in its behaviour and usage is actually better off being an Extension.
>
> Also i would like to point out that we keep on forgetting that Extensions
> are not some kinda stripped down shoehorned replacement of real Shell
> programming. They are REALLY powerful. Why they seem to be objected to
> something that's *lower* than Shell Code is beyond me. Maybe it's the
> presentation? Is it the quality of Extensions? Maybe that's really where we
> should be looking for a solution.
>
>
>
> Am Samstag, 4. April 2015 schrieb alex diavatis :
>
>> Hello Sebastien,
>>
>> Also as a desktop user, I do think that would be awful. Your OS X
>> example, is a good example why GNOME should avoid
>> intelligent hide docs. It doesn't even work either good on Elementary, or
>> with extensions.
>>
>> But since you like it, and since  you already know how you can use it,
>> and since any distro can ship such an extension,
>> whats the point of making default? :/
>>
>> - alex
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Sébastien D. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> First, I want to thank you and congratulate you for Gnome 3.16. It's a
>>> great release and I'm in love with it : beautiful, simple, clean and
>>> not bloated with useless features. We spend 99% of our time in a
>>> browser nowadays and it's so cool to have this stellar browser :
>>> Epiphany.
>>>
>>> But as a desktop user, the navigation between applications is a pain
>>> to work with. I have tried hard to get used to, but it's still not a
>>> smooth process. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe Gnome is more targeted
>>> for laptops and tablets.
>>>
>>> So, a quick idea : now that notifications have moved away, why not put
>>> a permanent dock in the bottom of the screen (like OS X or something
>>> like that) ?
>>>
>>> I know that extensions can just do that, but it could be a good move
>>> to win back desktop users (and distributions).
>>>
>>> Thanks all, I wish you the best,
>>>
>>> Sébastien
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>>
>>
>>
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