Hello Sri, > People are constantly moving from one desktop to another as > each one makes a new release, at least that is my observation.
Not sure if you can tell this anymore when Ubuntu is like 60-70% on the market and always growing. > We > should focus on making sure that we have a high quality desktop that > conforms to our design philosophy of Just Works and distraction free > computing. Quality doesn't mean much alone. Ubuntu has almost stop developing Unity for 2 years now, and they are still doing great. Free computing doesn't matter anymore, I mean everything is open nowadays, and open source has gone completely "commercialized". Thing is, that people *buy* what comes with the device, and there is not GNOME to any devices. In fact there is not even GNOME OS, which makes things even more unclear about goals and prospects. And of course *today* there is a higher competition than 5-7 years ago ..and I don't mean Canonical! - alex On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:37 PM, alex diavatis > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Emmanuele, > > > >> While I think we can discuss whether the presence of a dock could > >> ensure gaining users, I also don't think GNOME needs to "win back" > >> users in the first place. > > > > What that's supposed to mean? GNOME doesn't need to get users back? > > Just curious, coz I see the opposite. Which obviously isn't matter of a > dock > > not even matter if GNOME is better or worse than others. > > > > Not to put words in Emmanuele' mouth. But what I think he means is > that putting a dock on the screen for the reasons of getting user's > back should not be itself be a goal. The desktop community has an ebb > and flow. People are constantly moving from one desktop to another as > each one makes a new release, at least that is my observation. We > should focus on making sure that we have a high quality desktop that > conforms to our design philosophy of Just Works and distraction free > computing. > > sri > > > - alex > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Joern Konopka <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hey Sebastien and Alex :) > >> > >> As you both can see, there are just two emails in this Thread, and we > >> already covered the spectrum of opinions. > >> > >> For my part, you should know that i'm actively working on one of those > >> Dock Extension that have been mentioned. But i'm not gonna say that > >> everybody should use it. Instead i want to emphasize that i think > having a > >> Dock in an Extension Scope is the PERFECT solution for a Dock. And > here's > >> why. > >> > >> Docks will never make everybody happy. There are too many behaviours > >> people expect, too many options, too many positions people argue about. > >> > >> Take into account that we are moving towards a more and more > >> device-agnostic playfield. An (intellhide) Dock just isn't a viable > solution > >> for a range of Devices. I'm not the guru of anything Gnome is up to. > But i > >> think including a component that's so complex and also personal in its > >> behaviour and usage is actually better off being an Extension. > >> > >> Also i would like to point out that we keep on forgetting that > Extensions > >> are not some kinda stripped down shoehorned replacement of real Shell > >> programming. They are REALLY powerful. Why they seem to be objected to > >> something that's *lower* than Shell Code is beyond me. Maybe it's the > >> presentation? Is it the quality of Extensions? Maybe that's really > where we > >> should be looking for a solution. > >> > >> > >> > >> Am Samstag, 4. April 2015 schrieb alex diavatis : > >>> > >>> Hello Sebastien, > >>> > >>> Also as a desktop user, I do think that would be awful. Your OS X > >>> example, is a good example why GNOME should avoid > >>> intelligent hide docs. It doesn't even work either good on Elementary, > or > >>> with extensions. > >>> > >>> But since you like it, and since you already know how you can use it, > >>> and since any distro can ship such an extension, > >>> whats the point of making default? :/ > >>> > >>> - alex > >>> > >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Sébastien D. <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> First, I want to thank you and congratulate you for Gnome 3.16. It's a > >>>> great release and I'm in love with it : beautiful, simple, clean and > >>>> not bloated with useless features. We spend 99% of our time in a > >>>> browser nowadays and it's so cool to have this stellar browser : > >>>> Epiphany. > >>>> > >>>> But as a desktop user, the navigation between applications is a pain > >>>> to work with. I have tried hard to get used to, but it's still not a > >>>> smooth process. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe Gnome is more targeted > >>>> for laptops and tablets. > >>>> > >>>> So, a quick idea : now that notifications have moved away, why not put > >>>> a permanent dock in the bottom of the screen (like OS X or something > >>>> like that) ? > >>>> > >>>> I know that extensions can just do that, but it could be a good move > >>>> to win back desktop users (and distributions). > >>>> > >>>> Thanks all, I wish you the best, > >>>> > >>>> Sébastien > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> desktop-devel-list mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > >>> > >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > desktop-devel-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list >
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