On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:37 PM, alex diavatis <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Emmanuele, > >> While I think we can discuss whether the presence of a dock could >> ensure gaining users, I also don't think GNOME needs to "win back" >> users in the first place. > > What that's supposed to mean? GNOME doesn't need to get users back? > Just curious, coz I see the opposite. Which obviously isn't matter of a dock > not even matter if GNOME is better or worse than others. >
Not to put words in Emmanuele' mouth. But what I think he means is that putting a dock on the screen for the reasons of getting user's back should not be itself be a goal. The desktop community has an ebb and flow. People are constantly moving from one desktop to another as each one makes a new release, at least that is my observation. We should focus on making sure that we have a high quality desktop that conforms to our design philosophy of Just Works and distraction free computing. sri > - alex > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Joern Konopka <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Hey Sebastien and Alex :) >> >> As you both can see, there are just two emails in this Thread, and we >> already covered the spectrum of opinions. >> >> For my part, you should know that i'm actively working on one of those >> Dock Extension that have been mentioned. But i'm not gonna say that >> everybody should use it. Instead i want to emphasize that i think having a >> Dock in an Extension Scope is the PERFECT solution for a Dock. And here's >> why. >> >> Docks will never make everybody happy. There are too many behaviours >> people expect, too many options, too many positions people argue about. >> >> Take into account that we are moving towards a more and more >> device-agnostic playfield. An (intellhide) Dock just isn't a viable solution >> for a range of Devices. I'm not the guru of anything Gnome is up to. But i >> think including a component that's so complex and also personal in its >> behaviour and usage is actually better off being an Extension. >> >> Also i would like to point out that we keep on forgetting that Extensions >> are not some kinda stripped down shoehorned replacement of real Shell >> programming. They are REALLY powerful. Why they seem to be objected to >> something that's *lower* than Shell Code is beyond me. Maybe it's the >> presentation? Is it the quality of Extensions? Maybe that's really where we >> should be looking for a solution. >> >> >> >> Am Samstag, 4. April 2015 schrieb alex diavatis : >>> >>> Hello Sebastien, >>> >>> Also as a desktop user, I do think that would be awful. Your OS X >>> example, is a good example why GNOME should avoid >>> intelligent hide docs. It doesn't even work either good on Elementary, or >>> with extensions. >>> >>> But since you like it, and since you already know how you can use it, >>> and since any distro can ship such an extension, >>> whats the point of making default? :/ >>> >>> - alex >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Sébastien D. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> First, I want to thank you and congratulate you for Gnome 3.16. It's a >>>> great release and I'm in love with it : beautiful, simple, clean and >>>> not bloated with useless features. We spend 99% of our time in a >>>> browser nowadays and it's so cool to have this stellar browser : >>>> Epiphany. >>>> >>>> But as a desktop user, the navigation between applications is a pain >>>> to work with. I have tried hard to get used to, but it's still not a >>>> smooth process. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe Gnome is more targeted >>>> for laptops and tablets. >>>> >>>> So, a quick idea : now that notifications have moved away, why not put >>>> a permanent dock in the bottom of the screen (like OS X or something >>>> like that) ? >>>> >>>> I know that extensions can just do that, but it could be a good move >>>> to win back desktop users (and distributions). >>>> >>>> Thanks all, I wish you the best, >>>> >>>> Sébastien >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> desktop-devel-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
