On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:47 PM Debarshi Ray <rishi...@lostca.se> wrote: > It's not like this is the first time we have dropped things from GNOME > Online Accounts. Back in 2017 [1] we had dropped Telepathy. I had > written a wall of text explaining that decision. Guess how many > replies that thread got. Surely, Telepathy has had a lot more users > in its time than Documents.
I clearly remember the Telepathy removal from GOA. It made me slightly uncomfortable that people would lose their account configuration on upgrading, but at least Empathy still had a way to add those accounts back. Empathy has lost so many users by now that I didn't receive any complaints about that either. But you're talking about removing even more online accounts providers even though apps that support them have not yet implemented a replacement. That's a completely different thing than a one-time reauthentication after upgrading. (Google asks me for my password frequently (at least monthly) in my web browser. I think users are used to having to re-enter their password periodically.) And it's not just Documents. I'm a bit concerned over the user experience for Evolution if Fedora (or GNOME!!) removes the GOA support for email. I know that Evolution has its own accounts system. I'm just not sure that Evolution is designed to handle adding a replacement account when the GOA provider is ripped away when users upgrade. I understand the user confusion problem about having additional services and providers that are visible in GOA when the computer doesn't have installed apps that use those. Ubuntu feels that even more painfully than Fedora since we never included the Documents app by default or Photos and Thunderbird (which doesn't use GOA) is our default email client. A few months ago, I talked with mpt about GNOME Online Accounts being added to Ubuntu's version of gnome-initial-setup. I believe his opinion was that the app itself should offer the "add a new account" feature instead of the Initial Setup or Settings apps. If we wanted to go that direction, we could make the Online Accounts panel be integrated into the Applications panel (like we do in 3.32 with the Location service). Interestingly, Ubuntu Online Accounts was ahead of its time here. What it offers in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS sort of foreshadows how this could work. You can select Google and see which apps support the Google UOA service before signing in to the Google provider. Once signed in, there are on/off switches for each app so you could have Evolution have access to your Google account but not Shotwell if you wanted. If we add portals for this, I think this could be very useful with sandboxed apps. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list