Naoki, yes, I believe that should probably be updated. It's OK to have
multiple benchmarks, but for something that we are going to base blockers
on, they should be well-established per release. For example:

v2.2
  flame-kk 319MB

v2.5
  flame-kk 319MB
  flame-kk 1024MB
  aries 2048MB

v3.0
  aries 2048MB
  aries-l 2048

Not that these are the actual baseline benchmarks, just that they should be
well-defined, and there should be a common denominator between 2 adjacent
releases.

Thanks,

Eli Perelman

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Naoki Hirata <[email protected]> wrote:

> It sounds like : https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_OS/Performance/Benchmark
> needs to be updated to include memory allocations?  or are we talking about
> the same thing?
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Eli Perelman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Raptor's performance tests also use 319MB as it is the only real baseline
>> we tracked from v2.2. In order to compare the performance between the two
>> branches of v2.2 and v2.5, we need a comparable baseline. We have been
>> aggregating data for the Flame 1GB for future comparisons, but I would
>> suggest proposing a new baseline sooner rather than later so Raptor can
>> begin to aggregate data against that device and make it trackable between
>> branches.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eli Perelman
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Martijn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Naoki Hirata <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I believe we still do care.
>>> >
>>> > Running Engineering build will make some difference as the 319 MB
>>> takes into account the camera but not Marionette  (adb + devtools) which
>>> the engineering build runs.
>>> >
>>> > Having said that we run automation tests through jenkins, I'll check
>>> with mwargers in regards to the issue to see if he already filed a bug or
>>> not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, we're running the Gaia UI tests with the 319MB configuration and
>>> we have various tests that are failing (intermittently) and disabled
>>> because they just don't work with 319MB:
>>> 1172167 [Flame][Cards View] Cards view loses the list of recently opened
>>> apps
>>> 1176502 Failure in test_homescreen_column_layout.py on the Flame
>>> device, because Settings app gets killed
>>> 1178859 test_browser_bookmark.py: "IOError: Connection to Marionette
>>> server is lost."
>>> 1181344 [Window Management] Settings will be a blank white screen when
>>> returning from the "Built-in Keyboard" settings
>>> 1188080 test_rocketbar_offline_behavior.py: "NoSuchWindowException: None"
>>> 1189262 Failure in test_browser_share_link.py using Flame 319MB
>>> 1204280 [Flame] Intermittent failure in test_sms_contact.py in
>>> tap_send_sms using Flame 319MB
>>> 1188603 [Settings][Ringtones] Share activity closes when attempting to
>>> add custom ringtone
>>>
>>> I think these bugs need to be fixed, because they stand for lost
>>> functionality in those low memory conditions.
>>>
>>> All the bugs currently out there, regarding supporting 319MB memory
>>> configuration:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=12549261&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=[319MB-Flame-Support]
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > We still have not resolved the series of initial bugs going into
>>> 2.5/3.0:
>>> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155854
>>> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1162535
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Ting-Yu Chou <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> A bit off-topic.
>>> >>
>>> >> Raptor [1] just records a serious memory regression though, not sure
>>> is it related to the issue you see.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ting
>>> >>
>>> >> [1]
>>> http://raptor.mozilla.org/#/dashboard/script/apps-memory.js?device=flame-kk&branch=master&memory=319
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Gabriele Svelto <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  I was doing some testing in the past few days on a Flame using the
>>> >>> 319MiB memory switch and found that our core apps are now almost
>>> >>> unusable on it. Opening a single app seems to end up killing the
>>> >>> homescreen and keeping two open at the same time is almost
>>> impossible.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So I've got two questions: the first one is, did we significantly
>>> >>> regress memory consumption again? Or is it just gecko having grown
>>> >>> significantly in the past few weeks making our minimum process size
>>> >>> larger? The second question is obviously: do we still care about
>>> 256MiB
>>> >>> devices? Because if we still do then it looks like we're not in a
>>> good
>>> >>> spot for a 2.5 release running on those. If we don't care I suppose
>>> it's
>>> >>> fine though we should still keep our memory consumption under
>>> control.
>>> >>> If we move our minimum to 512MiB we'll have plenty of room and this
>>> >>> might cause us to regress even further almost without noticing (*).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm running an engineering build BTW, but I don't think this should
>>> make
>>> >>> much of a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Gabriele
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *) Unless the screen has a rather high resolution, in which case
>>> 512MiB
>>> >>> might still yield only a small amount of usable memory for apps as
>>> most
>>> >>> of it will go to the framebuffer and accompanying structures (layers
>>> & co).
>>> >>>
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