Hi Marcus, As I mentioned in the bug,I felt at the time that opening the most recent app would mess with the transition into the task manager. At the time, the plan was to access the task manager with a swipe from top. If we opened the most recent app, then the transition would start off by shrinking the app down, roughly following the motion of the finger, and then at some point would switch to the most recent app, and so change direction.
The swipe from top didn't make it into the platform in the end and we continued accessing the task manager using the long press. In this situation, I've got nothing against going back to the most recent app, iOS-style. But now we're planning on using swipe-from-bottom to access the task manager, and so my previous concerns still apply. iOS doesn't have this issue, since they don't have such a direct relationship between the gesture and the transition. I'm happy to prototype some different transitions and get some real world data to inform the decision, but I suspect that getting a transition that doesn't feel awkward will be tough. Happy to give it a try though. Francis On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Marcus Cavanaugh <[email protected]> wrote: > According to Francis' comment in that bug > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=987823>, the user may feel > disoriented when entering the task manager, particularly from the (future) > swipe-from-bottom, and that edge gestures covers this switching need. > > At a time when we had problems simply getting task manager to perform > reasonably, I can see why this would be a concern. Going forward, though, I > think we can, and should, provide a transition that orients the user > properly while also opening to the second-used app. (iOS's spatial model is > similar to ours, and they have a nice transition that orients the user > well.) > > We've received a lot of feedback that Task Manager feels "useless", and I > think this is one of the main reasons why, along with launch slowness, > incorrect touch-snapping physics, and choppy/poor drag-to-close physics. > > Rob/Francis (or whoever is responsible for task manager), are your > concerns still the same as I stated here, and do you still feel the current > behavior is ideal? If necessary, I'd like to perform some real-world user > testing to turn intuition into concrete data. > > (This isn't an urgent issue, but it's one that I consider important; if > user testing is necessary, I'd probably account for the option when working > on "swipe-from-bottom", which would make it simple to test both behaviors > in the wild.) > > I'm reopening the bug > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=987823> for tracking > purposes, so that whatever happens, our thought processes are noted in > discoverable form. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Dietrich Ayala <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> App switching is absolutely the dominant use-case for this feature. >> >> Resolved WONTFIX: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=987823 >> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM Wilson Page <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> +1 This makes a lot more sense. >>> >>> *W I L S O N P A G E* >>> >>> Front-end Developer >>> Firefox OS (Gaia) >>> London Office >>> >>> Twitter: @wilsonpage >>> IRC: wilsonpage >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Rob MacDonald <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marcus... >>>> >>>> I'll ping Francis and Liz on behalf of UX. Francis will be able to >>>> provide more insight on how we arrived at this design. >>>> >>>> - Rob >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Marcus Cavanaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The iOS task manager opens to the previously-used app, not the current >>>>> app, which means you can immediately switch between the two most recent >>>>> apps in task manager without scrolling the list. >>>>> We, on the other hand, open the current app. >>>>> >>>>> The iOS behavior provides better usability for switching between two >>>>> commonly-used apps. The only advantage to our model is that it makes it >>>>> easier to force-close the current app. >>>>> >>>>> Can we modify our behavior to match iOS? Is there a compelling reason >>>>> not to? (Disclosure: I'm currently working on the task manager.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------- >>>> Sr. UX Designer >>>> Firefox OS >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dev-fxos mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>> >> >
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