Great, I think that's a reasonable way forward. I'll revisit this later when I have some prototypes and we can reevaluate those options at that time.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Francis Djabri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Marcus, > > As I mentioned in the bug,I felt at the time that opening the most recent app > would mess with the transition into the task manager. At the time, the plan > was to access the task manager with a swipe from top. If we opened the most > recent app, then the transition would start off by shrinking the app down, > roughly following the motion of the finger, and then at some point would > switch to the most recent app, and so change direction. > > The swipe from top didn't make it into the platform in the end and we > continued accessing the task manager using the long press. In this situation, > I've got nothing against going back to the most recent app, iOS-style. > > But now we're planning on using swipe-from-bottom to access the task manager, > and so my previous concerns still apply. iOS doesn't have this issue, since > they don't have such a direct relationship between the gesture and the > transition. > > I'm happy to prototype some different transitions and get some real world > data to inform the decision, but I suspect that getting a transition that > doesn't feel awkward will be tough. Happy to give it a try though. > > Francis > > >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Marcus Cavanaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >> According to Francis' comment in that bug, the user may feel disoriented >> when entering the task manager, particularly from the (future) >> swipe-from-bottom, and that edge gestures covers this switching need. >> >> At a time when we had problems simply getting task manager to perform >> reasonably, I can see why this would be a concern. Going forward, though, I >> think we can, and should, provide a transition that orients the user >> properly while also opening to the second-used app. (iOS's spatial model is >> similar to ours, and they have a nice transition that orients the user well.) >> >> We've received a lot of feedback that Task Manager feels "useless", and I >> think this is one of the main reasons why, along with launch slowness, >> incorrect touch-snapping physics, and choppy/poor drag-to-close physics. >> >> Rob/Francis (or whoever is responsible for task manager), are your concerns >> still the same as I stated here, and do you still feel the current behavior >> is ideal? If necessary, I'd like to perform some real-world user testing to >> turn intuition into concrete data. >> >> (This isn't an urgent issue, but it's one that I consider important; if user >> testing is necessary, I'd probably account for the option when working on >> "swipe-from-bottom", which would make it simple to test both behaviors in >> the wild.) >> >> I'm reopening the bug for tracking purposes, so that whatever happens, our >> thought processes are noted in discoverable form. >> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Dietrich Ayala <[email protected]> wrote: >>> App switching is absolutely the dominant use-case for this feature. >>> >>> Resolved WONTFIX: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=987823 >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM Wilson Page <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> +1 This makes a lot more sense. >>>> >>>> W I L S O N P A G E >>>> >>>> Front-end Developer >>>> Firefox OS (Gaia) >>>> London Office >>>> >>>> Twitter: @wilsonpage >>>> IRC: wilsonpage >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Rob MacDonald <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Marcus... >>>>> >>>>> I'll ping Francis and Liz on behalf of UX. Francis will be able to >>>>> provide more insight on how we arrived at this design. >>>>> >>>>> - Rob >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Marcus Cavanaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> The iOS task manager opens to the previously-used app, not the current >>>>>> app, which means you can immediately switch between the two most recent >>>>>> apps in task manager without scrolling the list. >>>>>> We, on the other hand, open the current app. >>>>>> >>>>>> The iOS behavior provides better usability for switching between two >>>>>> commonly-used apps. The only advantage to our model is that it makes it >>>>>> easier to force-close the current app. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can we modify our behavior to match iOS? Is there a compelling reason >>>>>> not to? (Disclosure: I'm currently working on the task manager.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ------------------- >>>>> Sr. UX Designer >>>>> Firefox OS >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >
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