I agree with Dale as well as Mihai.  We should look on seeing how we can
improve things and it's a good point that we do need a central point of
information/forum that's easy to find and searchable (content + in search
engines).

I would suggest, Mihai, is to file bugs in regards to those points.  Keep
it emotionally neutral and point out facts and data points and ping the
right people with a needinfo in the bug.  If the bugs are emotionally
charged, then chances might be it might get dismissed faster than being
looked at.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dale Harvey <[email protected]> wrote:

> It doesnt matter what resources and support is available, they obviously
> did not find it or found it lacking. Personally I would agree that we do
> not have a cohesive strategy for supporting our users.
>
> I wouldnt look at feedback as points to agree or disagree with, they are
> indications of where we can improve.
>
> On 22 October 2015 at 12:03, Kumar Rishav <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I would disagree on point no. 2. There are lots of resources and supports
>> from Fx OS team. It seems like that guy is not aware of resources and
>> communication mediums.
>> Also, now Mozilla is not concentrating on low end phone.
>>
>> Thanks
>> On 22 Oct 2015 2:29 pm, "Mihai Barbat" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you guys are on https://www.reddit.com/r/FireFoxOS, but
>>> yesterday I read an interesting feedback from a developer which I want to
>>> share here, as I feel it's valuable.
>>>
>>> I have my grumbles from app developer perspective, I'm not specializing
>>> on apps, just want to share some experience, feel like this thread is
>>> appropriate to gather some gripes related to FxOS ecosystem.
>>>
>>>    1.
>>>
>>>    To push update to existing packaged(the one, that could work
>>>    offline) app on firefox marketplace you'll have to wait 2 weeks, if you
>>>    have some bug in app, and it was found by reviewer, congrats, another 2
>>>    week waiting time. 1 hour for chrome app store for example, that
>>>    dramatically reduce number of updates you are willing to push.
>>>    2.
>>>
>>>    No resource for fx developers to gather and discuss some problems or
>>>    share experience in app development, no community management from Mozilla
>>>    side at all, seriously Mozilla, why not to setup Discource and gather
>>>    developers in one place !?
>>>    3.
>>>
>>>    No business for app developers, if you are concentrating on cheap
>>>    phones for 30-35$, that means no one buys you app even for 1$, that will
>>>    limit platform in both quality and quantity of the apps.
>>>    4.
>>>
>>>    No analytics, I don't know if app is being used or not, can't add
>>>    Google Analytics because security restrictions for packaged apps and no
>>>    solution from Mozilla. That means I don't have any actionable data about
>>>    the app, how many active users, what's average user session, is it worth
>>>    pushing updates or it's dead and no one needs it?
>>>
>>> And somewhat personal experience, I have an app that rated 4.5* on
>>> Chrome store, on FxOS - 2*, why - cause people demand app content in
>>> spanish while it's english only, well, I guess that's result of platform
>>> distribution.
>>>
>>> I wish FxOS to succeed, but in it's current state it's far from being
>>> good both from user and developer perspectives.
>>>
>>>
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