Hi I am chiming in. I am a js dev in my pro life, but not on FFOS, although I own a device, bought for ideological reasons.
What I could never understand, is why there a marketplace inspired by iOS-Android, and nothing similar to sourceforge-github. Of course nobody make money out of that, but it is a great way to get stable and popular apps, and then commercial vendors can sell softs that plug onto these. If I bought a FFOS phone "free and cheap hardware" it wasn't to become a consumer similar to iphone fanboys. I hope that would be something for ppl with m mindset, so that we can start/contribute to the ecosystem that can attract wider audience and commercial soft makers. but I still support what you are doing I hope it is going somewhere, and I am going to be a new device so that I dont have to restart between reading sms from 2 different persons.... ;) -olivvv On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Naoki Hirata <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Dale as well as Mihai. We should look on seeing how we can > improve things and it's a good point that we do need a central point of > information/forum that's easy to find and searchable (content + in search > engines). > > I would suggest, Mihai, is to file bugs in regards to those points. Keep > it emotionally neutral and point out facts and data points and ping the > right people with a needinfo in the bug. If the bugs are emotionally > charged, then chances might be it might get dismissed faster than being > looked at. > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dale Harvey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It doesnt matter what resources and support is available, they obviously >> did not find it or found it lacking. Personally I would agree that we do >> not have a cohesive strategy for supporting our users. >> >> I wouldnt look at feedback as points to agree or disagree with, they are >> indications of where we can improve. >> >> On 22 October 2015 at 12:03, Kumar Rishav <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would disagree on point no. 2. There are lots of resources and >>> supports from Fx OS team. It seems like that guy is not aware of resources >>> and communication mediums. >>> Also, now Mozilla is not concentrating on low end phone. >>> >>> Thanks >>> On 22 Oct 2015 2:29 pm, "Mihai Barbat" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if you guys are on https://www.reddit.com/r/FireFoxOS, >>>> but yesterday I read an interesting feedback from a developer which I want >>>> to share here, as I feel it's valuable. >>>> >>>> I have my grumbles from app developer perspective, I'm not specializing >>>> on apps, just want to share some experience, feel like this thread is >>>> appropriate to gather some gripes related to FxOS ecosystem. >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> To push update to existing packaged(the one, that could work >>>> offline) app on firefox marketplace you'll have to wait 2 weeks, if you >>>> have some bug in app, and it was found by reviewer, congrats, another 2 >>>> week waiting time. 1 hour for chrome app store for example, that >>>> dramatically reduce number of updates you are willing to push. >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> No resource for fx developers to gather and discuss some problems >>>> or share experience in app development, no community management from >>>> Mozilla side at all, seriously Mozilla, why not to setup Discource and >>>> gather developers in one place !? >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> No business for app developers, if you are concentrating on cheap >>>> phones for 30-35$, that means no one buys you app even for 1$, that will >>>> limit platform in both quality and quantity of the apps. >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> No analytics, I don't know if app is being used or not, can't add >>>> Google Analytics because security restrictions for packaged apps and no >>>> solution from Mozilla. That means I don't have any actionable data about >>>> the app, how many active users, what's average user session, is it worth >>>> pushing updates or it's dead and no one needs it? >>>> >>>> And somewhat personal experience, I have an app that rated 4.5* on >>>> Chrome store, on FxOS - 2*, why - cause people demand app content in >>>> spanish while it's english only, well, I guess that's result of platform >>>> distribution. >>>> >>>> I wish FxOS to succeed, but in it's current state it's far from being >>>> good both from user and developer perspectives. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dev-fxos mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dev-fxos mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dev-fxos mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > dev-fxos mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos > >
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