Hi Alex,

Do you have something newer than 2011 ;) ?

Google suggest responsive webdesign <
https://developers.google.com/webmasters/smartphone-sites/details?hl=de>
and that, i am sure, for a reason! For example, imho, google wants to make
money and to have two different pages in the index costs more money than
one!

Regards,
Bjoern


2013/5/31 Alexander Hupe <[email protected]>

> **
>
> Hi,
>
> no! This is no problem:
> http://googlewebmastercentral-de.blogspot.de/2011/03/websites-mobiltauglich-gestalten.html
>
> or here:
>
>
> http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.de/de/de/webmasters/docs/einfuehrung-in-suchmaschinenoptimierung.pdf
>  (Page
> 26)
>
> The best way is the same URL for desktop AND mobile.
>   Viele Grüße!
>
> Alex
>
>
>  -----Ursprüngliche Daten-----
> *Datum:* 31.05.2013 16:15:51
> *Von:* Hardik Badani <[email protected]>
> *An:* <[email protected]>
> *Betreff:* Re: [oxid-dev-general] Mobile Site with OXID
> *Vorgang:* T-S4AF2L3R3F-28
>
>   Hi All,
>
> I have also the same concern of google as invoked by Mark  also stated it
> in my original post.
>
> Danke.
>
>  *From:* Mark Oswald <[email protected]>
>   *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 7:24 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [oxid-dev-general] Mobile Site with OXID
>
>  hi,
>
> isn't that a problem with google? I mean to find different content / html
> structure on the same url. Google checks the site with different user
> agents where mobile user agents are included.
>
> Viele Grüße,
> Mark
>
> Am 30.05.2013 um 18:25 schrieb mobilemojo - Robert Rieser <
> [email protected]>:
>
>   Dear Hardik,
>
> we also have an mobilemojo mobileweb theme for oxid, based on bootstrap
> framework.
> Our solution was quiet simple:
>
> the theme switcher, that can switch between different installed oxid
> themes, based on device user agent string.
> So you have same url, different templates.
> You could even extend this for one "Pad" theme, if you like.
>
> you have different caches for each theme, and some other obstacles to
> solve, but in the end result will be quiet good.
>
> you can try http://www.mobilemall.de/shop17
> this is a lightweight theme in new flat design style.
>
> we have additional extensions for this, like banner module, some input
> assistant or 360 degree product animation.
>
> one of our customer is www.bobshop.de  -  here you can check how
> customizable the theme is.
>
> in my/our opinion you will need different approaches for different clients.
>
>    1. responsive design for classic devices and pads
>    2. mobile theme for mobile phones (touch smartphones)
>    3. mobile app for strong brands or mass products with returning
>    customers
>
> issue is that responsive is nice, but not enough because there are
> hundreds of different devices with different screen resolutions and sizes.
>
> you have full hd on a 5 inch phone, or a vga display on a cheap tablet.
> You must handle all of these devices the best way. so thats why a mobile
> theme makes sense, even if there are responsive templates.
>
> regards,
> Robert
>
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> Von: Joscha Krug | marmalade GmbH <[email protected]>
> Antworten an: "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2013 15:52
> An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [oxid-dev-general] Mobile Site with OXID
>
>
>  Dear Hardik,
>
> what you need, is already in development, OXID announced that during the
> OXID Commons.
> They expect a release in the late summer (Correct me, if i'm wrong).
>
> But there are already solutions for that:
>
>    - There is an OpenSource-Solution discussed in the forum and on GitHub
>    https://github.com/OXIDprojects/OXID-mo4free
>    - There are commercial modules like our OXMOB
>
>    
> http://www.marmalade.de/shop/index.php?cl=search&searchparam=mobile&ldtype=line&_artperpage=10&listorderby=oxvarminprice&listorder=desc&pgNr=0
>
> Best Joscha
>
>
> //---------
>
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> marmalade GmbH
>
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>
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> *
> Das einfach geniale OXID eShop Modul.
> Ab sofort in unserem 
> Online-Shop<http://www.marmalade.de/shop/Templates/OXMOB-OXID-eShop-mobile-Template.html?pk_campaign=OXMOB%20%7C%20E-Mail-Link&pk_kwd=normalEmail>erhältlich.
>
> Am 30.05.2013 13:57, schrieb Hardik Badani:
>
> Thanks for reply
>
> But we require complete different design, so responsive one I guess not
> feasible.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dominik Smatana
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] Mobile Site with OXID
>
> I would say
>
> 3) Responsive web design
>
> One template, support for many devices, no SEO issues...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Hardik Badani
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> Greetings!
>
> I have one concern about mobile site with OXID.
> I would like to create two design with same shop one for mobile version
> and
> other for PC.
> with this point I have two scope:
>
> 1)
> I would like to use same url for mobile design as well as pc design only
> based on device we require load different template for mobile device.
> would it be possible with OXID to create two different theme and load
> either
> one as per devices..?
> Also, will it be detectable by google analytics that whether request is
> from
> mobile or PC..?
> and hopefully there will be no SEO issue..!
>
> 2)
> I would like to load mobile design with different url (may be using
> sub-domain like m.domain.com).
> So, how could I handle same shop with two different URL for mobile as well
> as PC.
> Also, google analytics will show different request for mobile as well as
> for
> PC based on different URL.
> but I guess SEO will have same content  twice, so how could we resolved
> this
> using OXID..?
>
> Can anyone let me know how and using which scope should I move further..?
> Hopefully someone will have idea of this and guide me for proper way.
> Waiting for positive one. Thank you for help.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Hardik
>
>
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