On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Paul Wouters via dev-security-policy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy wrote:
>
> I suppose this is both a question for policy and for Mozilla - given the
>> ability to provide accurate-but-misleading information in EV certificates,
>> and the effect it has on the URL bar (the lone trusted space for security
>> information), has any consideration been given to removing or deprecating
>> EV certificates?
>>
>
> Fix the EV GUI not to hide the hostname part of the URL, and retain the
> display of the company name.
>

This is already the behaviour of Firefox. Perhaps you were thinking of
Safari?


> Unless you are going to invent a new namespace, there isn't anything to
> gain by removing EV. It's still better than not having EV, even if it
> is a second race to the bottom after the DV race.
>

I'm not sure I understand this remark. EV is an attempt to invent a new
namespace (through corporate jurisdiction of incorporation). As presently
implemented in Firefox (and other browsers), this namespace granularity is
limited to the country, although the example from Ian highlights the
long-known issue that the namespace for corporate jurisdiction can be much
finer grained - down to city/municipality, in some cases. Unless all of
that information is presented to the user at the same precedence of the URL
bar, and with the same understanding about what the 'expected' values
should be, then there is no additional value derived from that presentation
at all.
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