On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>
> Certainly, as you noted, one option is to improve EV beyond simply being
> an assertion of legal existence.
>

Does this mean we're in agreement that EV doesn't provide value to justify
the UI then? ;-)

I say it loaded and facetiously, but I think we'd need to be honest and
open that if we're saying something needs to be 'more' than EV, in order to
be useful and meaningful to users - which is what justifies the UI surface,
versus being useful to others, as Matt highlighted - then either EV meets
the bar of UI utility or it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then orthogonal to
and separate from efforts to add "Validation ++" (whether they be QWACS in
eIDAS terms or something else), then there's no value in the UI surface
today, and whether there's any value in UI surface in that Validation++
should be evaluated on the merits of Validation++'s proposals, and not by
invoking EV or grandfathering it in.
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