I second the call to remove WHOIS based DCV as well. This report has likely
created copycat attacks.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 03:21 Hanno Böck <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 06:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
> Claves Nostrum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > IANA says the whois server for whois.nic.mobi
> > (https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/mobi.html)
> >
> > whois cmd util uses whois.afilias.net as the whois server for .mobi
> > (
> https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/blob/dc588f10ee8135e17b3a1b6934583476bcb67bed/tld_serv_list#L64
> )
>
> Related PR:
> https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/pull/176
>
> It appears there are more such problems:
> https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/issues/177
> "whois2.afilias-grs.net (the server for two TLDs) no longer exists, the
> domain is owned by some kinda sketchy parking service"
>
> https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/issues/179
> "Server for .bz is whois.afilias-grs.info associated with old 'Afilias'
> name, might need updating"
>
> This one looks particularly concerning, because it indicates the data
> on the IANA database is oudated/incorrect:
> https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/pull/178
>
>
> It appears to me that this is an extremely problematic situation.
> Existing whois tools hardcode whois servers, and the data is updated
> manually.
> That could be "fixed" by requiring CAs to make sure they use updated
> data.
>
> But there's a larger question whether there even is a reliable "source
> of truth" for whois servers. Does IANA make any guarantees that the
> whois servers they advertise are operational, and under control of the
> respective TLD authority?
>
> IMHO if there is no satisfying answer to these questions, whois data
> should no longer be allowed as a domain validation mechanism.
>
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