I'm not sure about the monitor behavior. I've never had a reason to
run more than one, and I don't think we have any well-defined behavior
for trying to run more than one (I could see an argument for both). It
would be weird if one incorrectly reported "Master[now Manager] is
down" because another monitor was running, though. I would expect the
2.1 behavior you described over that 2.0 behavior.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:59 AM Vincent Russell
<vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Christopher,
>
> I did neglect to update the log4j2 files.
>
> One thing that is weird is that the monitors appear to work differently
> with high availability.
>
> With 2.0.1 the accumulo monitors both work and you can hit them both (one
> just says 'Master is down'; however, with 2.1.1, it appears that only one
> works.    Is this expected?
>
> Thank you,
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:28 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I do not know about the error message you saw. StatusConsoleListener
> > is not an Accumulo class, but it looks like it's a log4j one. My best
> > guess is that during your upgrade, you did not migrate your log4j
> > config files over to be based on the log4j2 ones we have as an example
> > in the 2.1 tarball. It's possible that there's some log4j
> > configuration issue that's preventing you from seeing the reason why
> > the Monitor failed to start.
> >
> > To troubleshoot, I would compare your log4j config with what we ship
> > in the 2.1 tarball and also check to see if you've done any log4j
> > config overrides in the system properties or environment variables
> > that control log4j.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 8:10 PM Vincent Russell
> > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Christopher,
> > >
> > > Don't worry.  I definitely planned on testing an upgrade on a test
> > > cluster.   :)
> > >
> > > I just upgraded a test cluster and everything appeared to go smoothly
> > > except for one thing.
> > >
> > > I am able to login to the accumulo shell and I can see the table that I
> > > created before the upgrade exists and I can scan that table.
> > >
> > > Before the upgrade the monitor was running on port 9995, but now nothing
> > > appears to be running on that port.    Nothing in the monitor log
> > exception:
> > >
> > > ERROR StatusConsoleListener Unable to send HTTP in appender [MonitorLog]
> > > IllegalARgumentException: invalid URI schema <<hostname>>
> > >
> > >
> > > This seems not great, but I am not sure if it's related.
> > >
> > > It doesn't look like the monitor is running on another port.   Any
> > > suggestions for debugging this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vincent
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 7:09 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My understanding is that the upgrade of ZK is pretty easy... but I
> > > > would consult the ZooKeeper community for advice on that, since they
> > > > are the experts. For Accumulo's part, I believe 2.0 worked fine with
> > > > newer versions of ZK (3.5+), so you should be able to update ZK first
> > > > if you didn't want to do them at the same time. There may be some
> > > > things you might need to do to ensure your classpath is set up
> > > > correctly for Accumulo if using it with 2.0, since 2.0 might assume ZK
> > > > 3.4 jar locations. I don't recall the specifics, but I remember it
> > > > wasn't that bad. fluo-uno had used newer ZK versions with 2.0 for a
> > > > while. The necessary config changes to support that might even still
> > > > be scripted in its repo.
> > > >
> > > > I'm really not familiar with Hadoop upgrades, but as far as Accumulo
> > > > is concerned, it would probably treat both 3.3.1 and 3.3.5 as
> > > > essentially equivalent. I don't think anything substantially changed
> > > > that would cause Accumulo to even notice a difference. Seems like it
> > > > would just be a quick shutdown, update the classpath, restart, for
> > > > Accumulo. For Hadoop, you may have some upgrade tasks... I'd check
> > > > with the Hadoop community first. You could probably upgrade Hadoop
> > > > before or after you upgrade Accumulo for this one. I don't think it's
> > > > going to matter much.
> > > >
> > > > If you're concerned about problems you might encounter, I would run
> > > > through the upgrades on a small test instance first, just to practice.
> > > > If you run into a specific problem doing that, we could probably offer
> > > > more specific insight, having probably seen it before.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:50 PM Vincent Russell
> > > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Christopher.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does there exist some documentation for upgrading zookeeper from
> > 3.4.14
> > > > to
> > > > > 3.8.1?   Is there a preferred upgrade path?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also...Is there any documentation on how this affects hadoop when
> > using
> > > > > high availability?   We are using hadoop 3.3.1.  I want to upgrade to
> > > > > hadoop 3.3.5, but I didn't know if that should be done as part of
> > > > upgrading
> > > > > accumulo or later.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any experience folks have would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:58 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The correct link seems to be
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://accumulo.apache.org/docs/2.x/troubleshooting/zookeeper#zookeeper-acls
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It looks like both `bin/accumulo dump-zoo` and `bin/accumulo-util
> > > > > > dump-zoo` will do the same thing. It was originally a disconnected
> > > > > > utility that existed for convenience, but was incorporated into our
> > > > > > regular tooling recently as part of an effort to make all these
> > > > > > utilities more easily discoverable and executable. I don't think we
> > > > > > realized that it already had a convenient and documented entry
> > point.
> > > > > > We were just looking for utilities with a "main" method. Either
> > should
> > > > > > work fine. They call the same code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 11:04 AM Vincent Russell
> > > > > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also the link to:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > https://accumulo.apache.org/docs/2.x/troubleshooting/ZooKeeper#ACLs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is not resolving.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What needs to be done at this step?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:36 AM Vincent Russell <
> > > > > > vincent.russ...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm practicing going to the upgrade instructions from 2.0.1 to
> > > > 2.1.1
> > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > wanted to confirm that the zoo-dump command is run via the
> > > > > > accumulo-util
> > > > > > > > command and not via accumulo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The instructions say:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > $ACCUMULO_HOME/bin/accumulo dump-zoo --xml --root /accumulo |
> > tee
> > > > > > > > PATH_TO_SNAPSHOT
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >

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