Christopher,

I don't remember configuring anything with regards to commons-vfs.  How do
I disable this?

After continuously hitting refresh on either monitor they just continuously
say the manager is down.

I"ll dig some more on Monday.

Thanks for the response.

-Vincent

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 5:39 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:

> I am not sure what's up with the VFS error. I generally recommend
> against using commons-vfs, because of the lack of any known good
> versions, and the fact that most of what it is used for can be done
> better in other ways. We have taken steps in recent versions to make
> sure that the classloader stuff is more pluggable, so people do not
> have to rely on commons-vfs, if they don't want to use it. One thing
> that's concerning is that VFS is using some temp file in /tmp, which
> could be wiped at any time by the OS, so if you do have need of VFS,
> you may want to consider customizing it to use a different directory,
> that isn't going to be wiped periodically by the OS. I believe the
> relevant Accumulo property is: general.vfs.cache.dir
>
> The manager is down message is expected on initial startup if the
> monitor starts faster than the manager, but refreshing the page should
> make it work eventually if the manager is actually running. If that
> doesn't happen eventually, I'm not sure what could be happening
> without further troubleshooting.
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:36 PM Vincent Russell
> <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Christopher,
> >
> > I have run through an upgrade with a bit more data than I did previously
> > and monitors with high availability just don't seem as consistent as they
> > were with 2.0.1.
> >
> > After upgrading both accumulo monitors are reporting "Manager is Down"
> and
> > I was only able to achieve that after restarting both of the monitors and
> > managers multiple times.
> >
> > The only ERROR log that I see in the manager logs are (at startup):
> >
> > java.nio.File.NoSuchFileException: /tmp/accumulo-vfs-cache-410@hostname
> > ....
> > at
> >
> org.accumulo.start.classloader.vfs.AccumuloVFSClassLoader.close(AccumuloVFSClassloader.java:453)
> >
> > I see this on both managers.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 12:21 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure about the monitor behavior. I've never had a reason to
> > > run more than one, and I don't think we have any well-defined behavior
> > > for trying to run more than one (I could see an argument for both). It
> > > would be weird if one incorrectly reported "Master[now Manager] is
> > > down" because another monitor was running, though. I would expect the
> > > 2.1 behavior you described over that 2.0 behavior.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:59 AM Vincent Russell
> > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Christopher,
> > > >
> > > > I did neglect to update the log4j2 files.
> > > >
> > > > One thing that is weird is that the monitors appear to work
> differently
> > > > with high availability.
> > > >
> > > > With 2.0.1 the accumulo monitors both work and you can hit them both
> (one
> > > > just says 'Master is down'; however, with 2.1.1, it appears that
> only one
> > > > works.    Is this expected?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:28 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I do not know about the error message you saw.
> StatusConsoleListener
> > > > > is not an Accumulo class, but it looks like it's a log4j one. My
> best
> > > > > guess is that during your upgrade, you did not migrate your log4j
> > > > > config files over to be based on the log4j2 ones we have as an
> example
> > > > > in the 2.1 tarball. It's possible that there's some log4j
> > > > > configuration issue that's preventing you from seeing the reason
> why
> > > > > the Monitor failed to start.
> > > > >
> > > > > To troubleshoot, I would compare your log4j config with what we
> ship
> > > > > in the 2.1 tarball and also check to see if you've done any log4j
> > > > > config overrides in the system properties or environment variables
> > > > > that control log4j.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 8:10 PM Vincent Russell
> > > > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Christopher,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't worry.  I definitely planned on testing an upgrade on a
> test
> > > > > > cluster.   :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just upgraded a test cluster and everything appeared to go
> smoothly
> > > > > > except for one thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am able to login to the accumulo shell and I can see the table
> > > that I
> > > > > > created before the upgrade exists and I can scan that table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Before the upgrade the monitor was running on port 9995, but now
> > > nothing
> > > > > > appears to be running on that port.    Nothing in the monitor log
> > > > > exception:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ERROR StatusConsoleListener Unable to send HTTP in appender
> > > [MonitorLog]
> > > > > > IllegalARgumentException: invalid URI schema <<hostname>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This seems not great, but I am not sure if it's related.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It doesn't look like the monitor is running on another port.
>  Any
> > > > > > suggestions for debugging this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 7:09 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My understanding is that the upgrade of ZK is pretty easy...
> but I
> > > > > > > would consult the ZooKeeper community for advice on that, since
> > > they
> > > > > > > are the experts. For Accumulo's part, I believe 2.0 worked fine
> > > with
> > > > > > > newer versions of ZK (3.5+), so you should be able to update ZK
> > > first
> > > > > > > if you didn't want to do them at the same time. There may be
> some
> > > > > > > things you might need to do to ensure your classpath is set up
> > > > > > > correctly for Accumulo if using it with 2.0, since 2.0 might
> > > assume ZK
> > > > > > > 3.4 jar locations. I don't recall the specifics, but I
> remember it
> > > > > > > wasn't that bad. fluo-uno had used newer ZK versions with 2.0
> for a
> > > > > > > while. The necessary config changes to support that might even
> > > still
> > > > > > > be scripted in its repo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm really not familiar with Hadoop upgrades, but as far as
> > > Accumulo
> > > > > > > is concerned, it would probably treat both 3.3.1 and 3.3.5 as
> > > > > > > essentially equivalent. I don't think anything substantially
> > > changed
> > > > > > > that would cause Accumulo to even notice a difference. Seems
> like
> > > it
> > > > > > > would just be a quick shutdown, update the classpath, restart,
> for
> > > > > > > Accumulo. For Hadoop, you may have some upgrade tasks... I'd
> check
> > > > > > > with the Hadoop community first. You could probably upgrade
> Hadoop
> > > > > > > before or after you upgrade Accumulo for this one. I don't
> think
> > > it's
> > > > > > > going to matter much.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you're concerned about problems you might encounter, I
> would run
> > > > > > > through the upgrades on a small test instance first, just to
> > > practice.
> > > > > > > If you run into a specific problem doing that, we could
> probably
> > > offer
> > > > > > > more specific insight, having probably seen it before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:50 PM Vincent Russell
> > > > > > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you Christopher.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does there exist some documentation for upgrading zookeeper
> from
> > > > > 3.4.14
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > 3.8.1?   Is there a preferred upgrade path?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also...Is there any documentation on how this affects hadoop
> when
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > > high availability?   We are using hadoop 3.3.1.  I want to
> > > upgrade to
> > > > > > > > hadoop 3.3.5, but I didn't know if that should be done as
> part of
> > > > > > > upgrading
> > > > > > > > accumulo or later.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any experience folks have would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:58 PM Christopher <
> > > ctubb...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The correct link seems to be
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://accumulo.apache.org/docs/2.x/troubleshooting/zookeeper#zookeeper-acls
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It looks like both `bin/accumulo dump-zoo` and
> > > `bin/accumulo-util
> > > > > > > > > dump-zoo` will do the same thing. It was originally a
> > > disconnected
> > > > > > > > > utility that existed for convenience, but was incorporated
> > > into our
> > > > > > > > > regular tooling recently as part of an effort to make all
> these
> > > > > > > > > utilities more easily discoverable and executable. I don't
> > > think we
> > > > > > > > > realized that it already had a convenient and documented
> entry
> > > > > point.
> > > > > > > > > We were just looking for utilities with a "main" method.
> Either
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > work fine. They call the same code.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 11:04 AM Vincent Russell
> > > > > > > > > <vincent.russ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also the link to:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> https://accumulo.apache.org/docs/2.x/troubleshooting/ZooKeeper#ACLs
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > is not resolving.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What needs to be done at this step?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:36 AM Vincent Russell <
> > > > > > > > > vincent.russ...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm practicing going to the upgrade instructions from
> > > 2.0.1 to
> > > > > > > 2.1.1
> > > > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > > > wanted to confirm that the zoo-dump command is run via
> the
> > > > > > > > > accumulo-util
> > > > > > > > > > > command and not via accumulo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The instructions say:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > $ACCUMULO_HOME/bin/accumulo dump-zoo --xml --root
> > > /accumulo |
> > > > > tee
> > > > > > > > > > > PATH_TO_SNAPSHOT
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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