That sounds good. In the worst case we learned something in the best case we got the start of a good console.

Christian

On 02.03.2017 03:16, Clebert Suconic wrote:
What about this .....


I want to learn something knew :) and I want t a break after what I'm doing
now.



Let's try making a prototype around next month.  (April)

If it gets too difficult we go back to the hawt io road.


????




On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:56 PM Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
wrote:

I liked Martyn's proposal for being a cool thing :)


Just looked at this thing he mentioned (bootstrap).. man.. it's really
cool...
http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/


I'm not writing software just to be cool... but a great console would
definitely improve things...


One thing with a great UI though... our website still sucks :)


- It provides a framework for plugins. So you can have one console that
gives you access to ActiveMQ but also to other modules in your system
- It uses jolokia to access the existing JMX layer over REST. So we do
not
need to create an additional REST layer for the console on the AMQ and
Artemis side
- Uses a html/javascript client (Angular). So the client side is easy to
install on any server

So if we do not write a Hawtio plugin then we should still consider to
use
jolokia to avoid overhead on the server side.
I also think a framework to hook other plugins in would be great but for
just the activemq and artemis consoles it is not absolutely necessary.
+1... although I strongly encourage to keep the bits isolated. Not
only for easy switch between AMQ5 and Artemis, but eventually we could
include other technologies available on the console. (examples: AMQP
Management, JMX, some consoles standard that I don't remember now, or
any other thing yet to be invented)..   All I'm asking is for standard
OO encapsulation.

So ideally I would like to have something like Hatwio at apache as a
generic
base for a console where all apache projects can hook in via plugins.
Unfortunately this is a lot of effort and I am not sure if we find enough
manpower to do it.  It would also be a project on its own and should not
be
done at activemq.


..... if I had the time.....     :/



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Christian Schneider
http://www.liquid-reality.de

Open Source Architect
http://www.talend.com

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