Hey Mike-

You bring up some good points about keeping the serialization simple and 
separate. I’m good w/ that approach.

The API you propose doesn’t seem to indicate a place to touch the message 
headers. Are you suggesting that the Artemis client-side SerDes handler would 
have a convention where it would set the classname or other in a standard 
header? BTW— I think that defining a standard convention would be preferred. 
users could still have access to headers / properties ahead of calling the 
.send(..).

-Thanks,
Matt

> On May 30, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Michael André Pearce 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> I think having just a SerDe interface for payload handling separate from a 
> general interceptor / client side plugin, is beneficial as then it keeps the 
> logic for serialsation well encapsulated. And also cleaner if we need to do 
> anything (eg sending it as a bytesmessags with a header flag)
> 
> I see this very much like difference in kafka where you have payload 
> serialisation (serdes) and custom-plugin (interceptors)
> 
> Also having just a serde makes interface for people to implement and care 
> about much simpler. Eg this is almost the interface I would expect:
> 
> byte[] serialize(Destination destination, Object o)
> 
> Object deserialize(Destination destination, byte[] bytes)
> 
> Nice and simple to implement without having to care about anything else.
> 
> Cheers
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 May 2017, at 23:18, Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Michael-
>> 
>> +1 dealing with bytes messages is preferred to object messages and custom 
>> object SerDes is super useful.
>> 
>> What do you think about considering a generic client-side plugin approach vs 
>> just a payload handler? 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Michael André Pearce 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If present then this would be used to serialise the Object instead of the 
>>> default, and subsequently create/convert to a BytesMessage, with a header 
>>> set to denote it was custom serialised.
>> 

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