What i mean is that we are providing not just a broker, nor just limit our 
scope (today, past or future) to just being a broker.

e.g. we provide (currently embedded)

admin console
libaio java journal (and in future other native features)
provide core java clients
provide open wire java clients







> On 4 Mar 2019, at 19:31, Justin Bertram <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm totally fine with changing the tag line. I just want it to be crystal
> clear.
> 
> By "platform" what specifically do you mean? Is that equivalent to having
> "all the bits needed"? Is it just a drop-in replacement for "broker"?
> 
> One of the most significant features of the brokers is the support for
> multiple industry standard protocols (i.e. AMQP, MQTT, STOMP). If you
> download either broker distribution you have "all the bits needed" *unless*
> you want to use one of these protocols. The brokers only ship Java clients
> for their specific protocols (i.e. OpenWire or Core). You have to go to
> other sources for all the various protocol/platform clients. That seems a
> bit to narrow to be a "platform" in my opinion.
> 
> 
> Justin
> 
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM michael.andre.pearce
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So i dont see activemq as just brokers but delivering a messaging platform
>> with all the bits needed.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
>> [email protected]> Date: 04/03/2019  18:04  (GMT+00:00) To:
>> [email protected] Subject: Re: Website > The current website though
>> does have this. I believe people contribute iftheir company uses.In general
>> i like.I like the idea of publicizing our users as well as it lends
>> credibility tothe project. However, the current list of users [1] includes
>> no companylogos and looks like it's mainly small companies, departments
>> within acompany or institution or just individuals. There is also this page
>> [2],but there are lots of broken links and most of it is probably far out
>> ofdate.> Tag line i think i preferred the one martyn had put. It was a
>> little moresnappy, also was more generic as project is around messaging.
>> not justbrokers (theyre main projects) but also some client projects and
>> now alsonative journal project as well.I changed the tag line because
>> there's doubt in my mind that we should bepromoting the NMS & CMS clients.
>> I started a new DISCUSS thread about thisso we can talk about it more
>> there. In short, if we shouldn't promote theNMS & CMS clients (e.g. they're
>> no longer maintained) then all we're leftwith is brokers.> Btw i dont see
>> any PR?I wanted to discuss a bit about the general direction before I sent
>> a PR.Justin[1] http://activemq.apache.org/users.html[2]
>> http://activemq.apache.org/projects-using-activemq.htmlOn Mon, Mar 4,
>> 2019 at 11:20 AM michael.andre.pearce<[email protected]>
>> wrote:> The current website though does have this. I believe people
>> contribute if> their company uses.In general i like. Tag line i think i
>> preferred the one> martyn had put. It was a little more snappy, also was
>> more generic as> project is around messaging.  not just brokers (theyre
>> main projects) but> also some client projects and now also native journal
>> project as well.Btw i> dont see any PR?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>> smartphone.> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <>
>> [email protected]> Date: 04/03/2019  14:54  (GMT+00:00) To:>
>> [email protected] Subject: Re: Website This looks ready! What we>
>> need to make it official?On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <>
>> [email protected]> wrote:>> I added some content to the landing page>
>> and pushed it to the staging> website [1]. In general, I tried to
>> highlight> what was true for *both*> brokers but also distinguish them to
>> make things> clear for users.  I've got> other content changes ready to
>> push, but I> wanted to get this out first for> review & discussion.>> In
>> case anybody> wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was>
>> supposed to be full> of company logos for two reasons:>   1) I'm not sure
>> we have any concrete> data on that.>   2) It's not clear to me whether or
>> not we need permission> to use another> company's logo on our website and
>> make claims about their> use of ActiveMQ.>>> Justin>> [1]>
>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at>
>> 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:>> > I'd be happy to>
>> help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was> > mentioned at one>
>> point.> >> > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people>
>> could contribute> > so we can have a better website sooner rather than>
>> later.> >> > Andy> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <>
>> [email protected]> wrote:> >> > > The site is uploaded and links
>> added.>> > >> > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1],
>> it's> currently> > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim,
>> use> the US> > mirror[2].> > >> > > Cheers> > > Martyn> > >> > > 1.>
>> https://status.apache.org/> > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > >>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[email protected]>>
>> wrote:> > >> > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a>
>> GitHub mirror> > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and>
>> should have the> > work> > > > in progress hosted under a separately>
>> directory and a message on the> > > > homepage shortly.> > > >> > > >>
>> Cheers> > > >> > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>> [email protected]>> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> +1> > > >>> > > >>>
>> Bruce> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >>
>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> > What>
>> about this. WE could :> > > >> >> > > >> > - commit this on git> > > >> >
>> -> upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > >> > On Mon, Oct
>> 22,> 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > <[email protected]>>
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a>
>> few times.  Having the> > > old> > > >> > website somewhere with a link is>
>> the way to go for the migration.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22,>
>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > >> >>
>> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>
>> Sounds good to me.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sent from my>
>> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >> > >> -------- Original message>
>> --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > >> > [email protected]> Date:>
>> 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:> > > >> > [email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Website> > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the>
>> home page of the new> > > website,> > > >> > >> directing users to the old>
>> site?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce>
>> Snyder <> > > >> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the message that they>
>> posted> > > about> > > >> > their> > > >> > >> > website changes that are>
>> underway:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct
>> 17,> 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > [email protected]>> > > >> >>
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM>
>> Bruce Snyder <> > > >> > [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > >
>> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the
>> idea of> a combination of> > JIRA> > > >> > issues> > > >> > >> > > plus a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere
>> such> > as>> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >
>>> Seeing as> how we are moving the website around completely,> > I> > > >>
>>> believe we>> > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the
>> older versions> in> > > some> > > >> > way. So,> > > >> > >> > > the> > >
>>>>>>>>>>> first thought that came to mind is a search capability in> >
>>> order> > >> >> > for> > > >> > >> > users> > > >> > >> > > > to find them
>> easier.> Another idea, we could also keep the> > old> > > >> site> > > >> >
>>>>>> intact> > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
>> e.g.,> > >> >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > >> > >> > > >
>> activemq.apache.org/5.x,> etc. However, the advantage of a> > > >>
>> search> > > >> > >> > feature> > >> >> > >> > > > is> > > >> > >> > > >
>> that it would be useful across the> site, not just for older> > > >> >
>> stuff. We> > > >> > >> > > might> > > >>> > >> > > > even be able structure
>> the search to allow users to select> > a>> > > >> > version of> > > >> > >>
>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > docs that they> would like to search. Anyway,
>> just some> > > >> thoughts.> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > I agree
>> that we should try to get the new site> functional> > > ASAP,> > > >> >
>> but> > > >> > >> > that> > > >> > >> > > >> should not eliminate the old
>> site entirely. We should not> > > >> abandon>> > > >> > users> > > >> > >>
>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I had thought that the
>> export of the current site into the> > > >> gitbook>> > > >> > had> > > >>
>>>>>> all> > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps> there are missing
>> pieces.  I like the> > > idea> > > >> of> > > >> > >> >> keeping> > > >> >
>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> site.  This> > >
>>>> ensures> > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the> info they need,
>> but let's us move> > > >> > forward> > > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > >> > >
>> new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home> page> > > for> >
>>>>>> the new> > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old> website AMQ
>> project page ("Existing> > > >> users> > > >> > >> > looking> >> > >> > >>
>>>> for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are>> > > able>
>>>>>> to> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of> accesses
>> to a particular page, we can> > > use> > > >> > that> > > >> > >>> > info>
>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > >> > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how> much> >
>>>>> effort> > > >> > would> > > >> > >> > be> > > >> > >> > >> involved,
>> there is already a search feature in the gitbook> > > >>> document> > > >>
>>>>>> (linked> > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).>> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing> placeholder content and
>> add> > > >> links> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > the>> > > >> > >> > > old
>> sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We>> > could> > > >> go>
>>>>>>> live> > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start> working through the
>> nice to> > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > >> > >> > >> think once we're
>> live and the code is available, the> > community> > > >>> will> > > >> >
>> be> > > >> > >> > more> > > >> > >> > > inclined to> report/fixing issues.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > On Fri,
>> Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > >>> [email protected]> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >
>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git>> > repos.> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting> together a ToDo list
>> for what> > needs> > > to> > > >> > happen> > > >> >> >> > to> > > >> > >>
>>>>>> move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for> older content.> > >
>> Can> > > >> you> > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > >> >> >> > > > > on
>> this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages,> > >> key> > > >> >
>>>>> features,> > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we> can all
>> contribute to these?  I> > > could> > > >> > take> > > >> > >> >> care> > >
>>>>>>>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things,> if
>> people with more> > experience> > > in> > > >> > NMS,> > > >> > >> >> CMS>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some>
>> content for the project home> > > >> pages?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new> > >>
>> site> > > >> > running> > > >> > >> > > > even> > > >> > >> > > > > if
>> it's> not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > On
>> Thu,> Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > >> > >> > > > >>
>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as
>> well:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo
>> created:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > >>>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On>
>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>> <> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram> > <> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a
>> "Create> a new Git repository"> > option> > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it> > > and> > > >> >
>> logged> >> > >> > >> > > in,> > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> apparently> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF
>> members> and PMC> > chairs.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at
>> 9:24 AM> Clebert> > Suconic> > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>
>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an>
>> Infra JIRA for this:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert> > > Suconic> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked infra>
>> and no reponse.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure on> > creating> > > a> > >
>>>>>> repo at> > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> I did ask infra about something what to> > > do..> > > >> > but so> >
>>>>>>>>>> far> > > >> > >> > > > no> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response.
>> I> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
>> here> >> > knows> > > >> a> > > >> > better> > > >> > >> > > way> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> this....> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8,
>> 2018 at 9:14> AM Clebert> > > >> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> <> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at
>> apache>> > infra> > > >> > list,> > > >> > >> > > asking> > > >> > >> > > >
>>> for> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> how to setup things.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM> > > Christopher> >
>>>>>>> Shannon> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
>> [email protected]>> > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting
>> the> website> > > discussion> > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> think it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can get the> >
>> new> > > >>> > website> > > >> > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > > and> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> have> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> clear> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on
>> there such as> what> > > Artemis> > > >> > is,> > > >> > >> > etc.> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 6,> 2018 at 9:13 AM> > Clebert> > > >> > Suconic <> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle it next week.> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
>> PM> > Bruce> > > >> >> Snyder <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> [email protected]>> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very helpful if
>> you> > > could> > > >> > create> > >> >> > >> > a> > > >> > >> > > > git> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > for it> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> and get> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > source code moved into
>> there.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On> Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58
>> AM> > > >> Clebert> > > >> > >> > Suconic> > > >>> > >> > > <> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce: Anything I
>> can do to> > > >> expedie> > >> >> > this?> > > >> > >> > or> > > >> > >> >
>>>> you> > > >> > >> > > > > >> are> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> the private repo?> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM>> > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> [email protected]> > > >> .invalid>> > > >> > >> >> wrote:> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you noted because its> > using> > > >> >> jekyll i> >
>>>>>>>>>> could> > > >> > >> > > > > use> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >
>> github> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One option is you could host> > it> > > >>> on> > >
>>>>> asf> > > >> > >> > git,> > > >> > >> > > > > have> > > >> > >>> > > >
>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >
>>>> clone> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do with code and then use> > >> github> >
>>>>>> pages,> > > >> > >> > > > simply> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > asking
>> infra> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub
>> domain point to the github> > > >> pages.> > > >> > Not> > > >> >> >> > >
>> sure> > > >> > >> > > > if> > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed or not,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>> but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is> probably
>> easiest.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> >> >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message> > > >> >>
>> --------From:> > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> [email protected]> Date:> > > >> > 02/10/2018> > > >> > >> > > >>
>> 21:11> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> To:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> [email protected]> > Subject:> > > >> Re:> > > >> > >> > Website>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great job, MIchael! I
>> like> >> the> > > >> look> > > >> > of> > > >> > >> > this> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> site.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's certainly work to be> > > done>
>>>>>>>> as you> > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>> so I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> can> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the
>> current> > >> >> site> > > >> > 100%> > > >> > >> > > just> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> yet. I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> that it>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> need> to be perfect, but we> > need> > > >> to> > > >> > >> >
>> provide> > > >> >> >> > > an> > > >> > >> > > > > > easy> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>> way to> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information we know exists> > via> > >
>>>>> search> > > >> >> >> > > > > > functionality> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>> or> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > something.> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> The first action should> be to> > > >> move> > > >> > the> > > >> > >> > >
>> source> > > >> > >> > > >> > > into> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git repo so> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> that> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> everyone has access to it,> > > >>> allowing> > > >> > >> > others> > > >>
>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > contribute.> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>> This will> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to deploy straight
>> from> > the> > > >> git> > > >> > repo> > >> >> > >> > at> > > >> > >> > >
>>> some> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point,> too.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has
>> anyone recently> > > investigated> > > >> >> how to> > > >> > >> > > >
>> deploy> > > >> > >> > > > > a> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > static> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website from> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> a> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > git> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo to the> sub-domain at the> > > >>
>> ASF?> > > >> > If> > > >> > >> > not,> > > >> >> >> > > I> > > >> > >> > >
>>>> will> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> it.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct
>> 2, 2018 at 8:40> > AM> > > >> > >> > > > > >> michael.andre.pearce> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> .invalid>> > > >> > >> > > wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> I just wanted to get the> > ball> > > >>> > rolling> > > >> > >> > >
>> again> > > >> > >> > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > this> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> we've> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > made> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some great> progress made on> > > the> >
>>>>>> initial> > > >> > >> > > > code> > > >>> > >> > > > > > base> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> we> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > started a> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> back,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> we've created a responsive> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> design based on bootstrap> > > >> which> > > >>> > looks> > > >> > >>
>>>>> pretty> > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > on
>> both> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> desktop, bringing us into> > > 2018> > > >> > ;).  All> > >> >> > >> > >
>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> exported> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > >> >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>> current site by Bruce> > > already,> > > >> > and> now> > >
>>>>>>>>>> lives> > > >> > >> > > > > > > under> > > >> > >> >> > > > >
>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation> >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>> on the ActiveMQ 5 project> > > page.> > > >> > >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There's obviously still> > some> > > >> work> > > >> > to do> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> but I> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> send now to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> get> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback>
>> and> > > >> hopefully> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>> input> > > >> > >> > > > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> content for the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages for each project.> >
>> What>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
>> happen> to> > > make> > > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > live.> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> I'd> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> to spend> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get this perfect,>
>>>>> but> > > >> > if we> > > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > get> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> website> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and kicking, we can improve> > > it> >
>>>>>>>>>>> iteratively> > > >> > >> > > > > over> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>> time.> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to here your> > >
>> thoughts,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code is here:> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a demohttps://> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent
>> from my> Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl
>> -e 'print> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> ActiveMQ> in Action:> > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >> >
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action:> > > >> >>
>> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:>
>> http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >>>
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Clebert
>> Suconic> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>> perl> -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >
>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Blog:>
>> http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>
>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action:>
>> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
>> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > Twitter:>
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > perl -e 'print>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > >>
>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action:>
>> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
>> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > Twitter:>
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >
>> -->> > > >> > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > -->
>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> --> > > >> perl
>> -e> 'print> > > >>>
>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >>
>> );'> > > >>> > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >>>
>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> Twitter:>
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >>> > > >> > >> >-- Clebert Suconic

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