For the sake of discussion, ActiveMQ has historically been self-defined as a:
- "Message Bus" [1] - "Message Broker" [2] - "Message Broker and Enterprise Integration Patterns provider" [3] - "Enterprise Messaging and Integration Patterns provider" [4] - "messaging and Integration Patterns provider" [5] - "messaging and Integration Patterns server" [6] I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing. I think "server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server" implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI, etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point. Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering. I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the future, but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from its historical legacy. Justin [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20070207075756/http://activemq.apache.org/home.html [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20070209012918/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html [3] https://web.archive.org/web/20071028065449/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html [4] https://web.archive.org/web/20090515003638/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html [5] https://web.archive.org/web/20090926130536/http://activemq.apache.org:80/index.html [6] https://web.archive.org/web/20130116192009/http://activemq.apache.org/home.html On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:37 PM Michael André Pearce <[email protected]> wrote: > What i mean is that we are providing not just a broker, nor just limit our > scope (today, past or future) to just being a broker. > > e.g. we provide (currently embedded) > > admin console > libaio java journal (and in future other native features) > provide core java clients > provide open wire java clients > > > > > > > > > On 4 Mar 2019, at 19:31, Justin Bertram <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm totally fine with changing the tag line. I just want it to be crystal > > clear. > > > > By "platform" what specifically do you mean? Is that equivalent to having > > "all the bits needed"? Is it just a drop-in replacement for "broker"? > > > > One of the most significant features of the brokers is the support for > > multiple industry standard protocols (i.e. AMQP, MQTT, STOMP). If you > > download either broker distribution you have "all the bits needed" > *unless* > > you want to use one of these protocols. The brokers only ship Java > clients > > for their specific protocols (i.e. OpenWire or Core). You have to go to > > other sources for all the various protocol/platform clients. That seems a > > bit to narrow to be a "platform" in my opinion. > > > > > > Justin > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM michael.andre.pearce > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> So i dont see activemq as just brokers but delivering a messaging > platform > >> with all the bits needed.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > >> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram < > >> [email protected]> Date: 04/03/2019 18:04 (GMT+00:00) To: > >> [email protected] Subject: Re: Website > The current website > though > >> does have this. I believe people contribute iftheir company uses.In > general > >> i like.I like the idea of publicizing our users as well as it lends > >> credibility tothe project. However, the current list of users [1] > includes > >> no companylogos and looks like it's mainly small companies, departments > >> within acompany or institution or just individuals. There is also this > page > >> [2],but there are lots of broken links and most of it is probably far > out > >> ofdate.> Tag line i think i preferred the one martyn had put. It was a > >> little moresnappy, also was more generic as project is around messaging. > >> not justbrokers (theyre main projects) but also some client projects and > >> now alsonative journal project as well.I changed the tag line because > >> there's doubt in my mind that we should bepromoting the NMS & CMS > clients. > >> I started a new DISCUSS thread about thisso we can talk about it more > >> there. In short, if we shouldn't promote theNMS & CMS clients (e.g. > they're > >> no longer maintained) then all we're leftwith is brokers.> Btw i dont > see > >> any PR?I wanted to discuss a bit about the general direction before I > sent > >> a PR.Justin[1] http://activemq.apache.org/users.html[2] > >> http://activemq.apache.org/projects-using-activemq.htmlOn Mon, Mar 4, > >> 2019 at 11:20 AM > michael.andre.pearce<[email protected]> > >> wrote:> The current website though does have this. I believe people > >> contribute if> their company uses.In general i like. Tag line i think i > >> preferred the one> martyn had put. It was a little more snappy, also was > >> more generic as> project is around messaging. not just brokers (theyre > >> main projects) but> also some client projects and now also native > journal > >> project as well.Btw i> dont see any PR?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy > >> smartphone.> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <> > >> [email protected]> Date: 04/03/2019 14:54 (GMT+00:00) To:> > >> [email protected] Subject: Re: Website This looks ready! What we> > >> need to make it official?On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram > <> > >> [email protected]> wrote:>> I added some content to the landing page> > >> and pushed it to the staging> website [1]. In general, I tried to > >> highlight> what was true for *both*> brokers but also distinguish them > to > >> make things> clear for users. I've got> other content changes ready to > >> push, but I> wanted to get this out first for> review & discussion.>> In > >> case anybody> wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was> > >> supposed to be full> of company logos for two reasons:> 1) I'm not > sure > >> we have any concrete> data on that.> 2) It's not clear to me whether > or > >> not we need permission> to use another> company's logo on our website > and > >> make claims about their> use of ActiveMQ.>>> Justin>> [1]> > >> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at> > >> 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:>> > I'd be happy > to> > >> help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was> > mentioned at > one> > >> point.> >> > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people> > >> could contribute> > so we can have a better website sooner rather than> > >> later.> >> > Andy> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <> > >> [email protected]> wrote:> >> > > The site is uploaded and links > >> added.>> > >> > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU > mirrors[1], > >> it's> currently> > > being worked on. To view the changes in the > interim, > >> use> the US> > mirror[2].> > >> > > Cheers> > > Martyn> > >> > > 1.> > >> https://status.apache.org/> > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > >> > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[email protected]>> > >> wrote:> > >> > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, > there's a> > >> GitHub mirror> > > > here[1]. I've also generated the static content > and> > >> should have the> > work> > > > in progress hosted under a separately> > >> directory and a message on the> > > > homepage shortly.> > > >> > > >> > >> Cheers> > > >> > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >> [email protected]>> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> +1> > > >>> > > > >>> > >> Bruce> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic > <> >> > >>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> > What> > >> about this. WE could :> > > >> >> > > >> > - commit this on git> > > >> > > > >> -> upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > >> > On Mon, > Oct > >> 22,> 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > < > [email protected]>> > >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed > here a> > >> few times. Having the> > > old> > > >> > website somewhere with a link > is> > >> the way to go for the migration.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct > 22,> > >> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > >> >> > >> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sent from my> > >> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >> > >> -------- Original message> > >> --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > >> > [email protected]> Date:> > >> 22/10/2018 12:38 (GMT+00:00) To:> > > >> > [email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Website> > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on > the> > >> home page of the new> > > website,> > > >> > >> directing users to the > old> > >> site?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce> > >> Snyder <> > > >> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the message that they> > >> posted> > > about> > > >> > their> > > >> > >> > website changes that > are> > >> underway:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct > >> 17,> 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM> > >> Bruce Snyder <> > > >> > [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > >> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like > the > >> idea of> a combination of> > JIRA> > > >> > issues> > > >> > >> > > > plus a> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere > >> such> > as>> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> Seeing as> how we are moving the website around completely,> > I> > > > >> > >>> believe we>> > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the > >> older versions> in> > > some> > > >> > way. So,> > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> first thought that came to mind is a search capability in> > > >>> order> > >> >> > for> > > >> > >> > users> > > >> > >> > > > to find > them > >> easier.> Another idea, we could also keep the> > old> > > >> site> > > > >> > > >>>>>> intact> > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, > >> e.g.,> > >> >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > >> > >> > > > > >> activemq.apache.org/5.x,> etc. However, the advantage of a> > > >> > >> search> > > >> > >> > feature> > >> >> > >> > > > is> > > >> > >> > > > > >> that it would be useful across the> site, not just for older> > > >> > > >> stuff. We> > > >> > >> > > might> > > >>> > >> > > > even be able > structure > >> the search to allow users to select> > a>> > > >> > version of> > > >> > > >> > >>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > docs that they> would like to search. Anyway, > >> just some> > > >> thoughts.> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > I > agree > >> that we should try to get the new site> functional> > > ASAP,> > > >> > > >> but> > > >> > >> > that> > > >> > >> > > >> should not eliminate the old > >> site entirely. We should not> > > >> abandon>> > > >> > users> > > >> > > >> > >>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>>> +1 Bruce.> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I had thought that the > >> export of the current site into the> > > >> gitbook>> > > >> > had> > > > >> > >>>>>> all> > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps> there are missing > >> pieces. I like the> > > idea> > > >> of> > > >> > >> >> keeping> > > > >> > > >>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> site. This> > > > >>>> ensures> > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the> info they need, > >> but let's us move> > > >> > forward> > > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > >> > > > > >> new content. Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home> page> > > > for> > > >>>>>> the new> > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old> website AMQ > >> project page ("Existing> > > >> users> > > >> > >> > looking> >> > >> > > >> > >>>> for the original ActiveMQ website click here."). If we are>> > > > able> > >>>>>> to> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of> accesses > >> to a particular page, we can> > > use> > > >> > that> > > >> > >>> > > info> > >>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how> much> > > >>>>> effort> > > >> > would> > > >> > >> > be> > > >> > >> > >> involved, > >> there is already a search feature in the gitbook> > > >>> document> > > > >> > >>>>>> (linked> > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).>> > > >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing> placeholder content and > >> add> > > >> links> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > the>> > > >> > >> > > old > >> sites from each project page (and the home page)? We>> > could> > > >> > go> > >>>>>>> live> > > >> > >> > > with this? Then start> working through the > >> nice to> > > >> > haves/criticals. I> > > >> > >> > >> think once we're > >> live and the code is available, the> > community> > > >>> will> > > >> > > >> be> > > >> > >> > more> > > >> > >> > > inclined to> report/fixing > issues.> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > On Fri, > >> Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > >>> [email protected]> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git>> > repos.> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting> together a ToDo list > >> for what> > needs> > > to> > > >> > happen> > > >> >> >> > to> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>> move to the new site? JIRA perhaps?> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for> older content.> > > > >> Can> > > >> you> > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > >> >> >> > > > > on > >> this. Also, there's the actual content for the pages,> > >> key> > > > >> > > >>>>> features,> > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we> can all > >> contribute to these? I> > > could> > > >> > take> > > >> > >> >> care> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things,> if > >> people with more> > experience> > > in> > > >> > NMS,> > > >> > >> >> > CMS> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some> > >> content for the project home> > > >> pages?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new> > >> > >> site> > > >> > running> > > >> > >> > > > even> > > >> > >> > > > > if > >> it's> not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > On > >> Thu,> Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as > >> well:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>> > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo > >> created:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > >>> > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On> > >> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> <> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram> > <> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a > >> "Create> a new Git repository"> > option> > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/. I clicked it> > > and> > > >> > > >> logged> >> > >> > >> > > in,> > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> apparently> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF > >> members> and PMC> > chairs.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at > >> 9:24 AM> Clebert> > Suconic> > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an> > >> Infra JIRA for this:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert> > > Suconic> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked infra> > >> and no reponse.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure on> > creating> > > a> > > > >>>>>> repo at> > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I did ask infra about something what to> > > do..> > > >> > but so> > > >>>>>>>>>> far> > > >> > >> > > > no> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. > >> I> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if > anyone > >> here> >> > knows> > > >> a> > > >> > better> > > >> > >> > > way> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this....> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, > >> 2018 at 9:14> AM Clebert> > > >> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> <> [email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at > >> apache>> > infra> > > >> > list,> > > >> > >> > > asking> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>> for> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> how to setup things.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM> > > Christopher> > > >>>>>>> Shannon> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <> > >> [email protected]>> > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting > >> the> website> > > discussion> > > >> > >> > > > restarted. I> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> think it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can get the> > > >> new> > > >>> > website> > > >> > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> have> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> clear> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on > >> there such as> what> > > Artemis> > > >> > is,> > > >> > >> > etc.> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Sat, Oct 6,> 2018 at 9:13 AM> > Clebert> > > >> > Suconic <> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle it next week.> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09 > >> PM> > Bruce> > > >> >> Snyder <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> [email protected]>> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very helpful if > >> you> > > could> > > >> > create> > >> >> > >> > a> > > >> > >> > > > > git> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> repo> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > for it> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and get> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > source code moved into > >> there.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On> Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58 > >> AM> > > >> Clebert> > > >> > >> > Suconic> > > >>> > >> > > <> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce: Anything I > >> can do to> > > >> expedie> > >> >> > this?> > > >> > >> > or> > > >> > > >> > > >>>> you> > > >> > >> > > > > >> are> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the private repo?> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM>> > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> [email protected]> > > >> .invalid>> > > >> > >> >> wrote:> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If you noted because its> > using> > > >> >> jekyll i> > > >>>>>>>>>> could> > > >> > >> > > > > use> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >> github> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One option is you could host> > it> > > >>> on> > > > >>>>> asf> > > >> > >> > git,> > > >> > >> > > > > have> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> clone> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do with code and then use> > >> github> > > >>>>>> pages,> > > >> > >> > > > simply> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > asking > >> infra> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub > >> domain point to the github> > > >> pages.> > > >> > Not> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> sure> > > >> > >> > > > if> > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> allowed or not,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>>> but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is> probably > >> easiest.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message> > > >> >> > >> --------From:> > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> [email protected]> Date:> > > >> > 02/10/2018> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> 21:11> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> To:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> [email protected]> > Subject:> > > >> Re:> > > >> > >> > Website> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great job, MIchael! I > >> like> >> the> > > >> look> > > >> > of> > > >> > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> site.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's certainly work to be> > > done> > >>>>>>>> as you> > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>> so I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> can> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of > the > >> current> > >> >> site> > > >> > 100%> > > >> > >> > > just> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> yet. I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> that it>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need> to be perfect, but we> > need> > > >> to> > > >> > >> > > >> provide> > > >> >> >> > > an> > > >> > >> > > > > > easy> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>> way to> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information we know exists> > via> > > > >>>>> search> > > >> >> >> > > > > > functionality> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>> or> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > something.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> The first action should> be to> > > >> move> > > >> > the> > > >> > >> > > > > >> source> > > >> > >> > > >> > > into> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git repo so> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> everyone has access to it,> > > >>> allowing> > > >> > >> > others> > > > >> > >>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > contribute.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This will> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to deploy straight > >> from> > the> > > >> git> > > >> > repo> > >> >> > >> > at> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> some> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point,> too.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has > >> anyone recently> > > investigated> > > >> >> how to> > > >> > >> > > > > >> deploy> > > >> > >> > > > > a> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > static> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website from> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> a> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > git> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo to the> sub-domain at the> > > >> > >> ASF?> > > >> > If> > > >> > >> > not,> > > >> >> >> > > I> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>> will> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> it.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct > >> 2, 2018 at 8:40> > AM> > > >> > >> > > > > >> michael.andre.pearce> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> [email protected]> > >>>>>>> .invalid>> > > >> > >> > > wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I just wanted to get the> > ball> > > >>> > rolling> > > >> > >> > > > >> again> > > >> > >> > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > this> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> we've> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > made> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some great> progress made on> > > the> > > >>>>>> initial> > > >> > >> > > > code> > > >>> > >> > > > > > base> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > started a> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> back,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> we've created a responsive> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> design based on bootstrap> > > >> which> > > >>> > looks> > > >> > >> > >>>>> pretty> > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > on > >> both> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> desktop, bringing us into> > > 2018> > > >> > ;). All> > >> >> > >> > > > >> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> exported> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> current site by Bruce> > > already,> > > >> > and> now> > > > >>>>>>>>>> lives> > > >> > >> > > > > > > under> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation> >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> on the ActiveMQ 5 project> > > page.> > > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> There's obviously still> > some> > > >> work> > > >> > to do> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> but I> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to> > > >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> send now to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> get> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early > feedback> > >> and> > > >> hopefully> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>>>> input> > > >> > >> > > > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> content for the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages for each project.> > > >> What>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do need to > have > >> happen> to> > > make> > > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > live.> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> I'd> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to spend> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get this perfect,> > >>>>> but> > > >> > if we> > > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > get> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for> > > >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> website> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and kicking, we can improve> > > it> > > >>>>>>>>>>> iteratively> > > >> > >> > > > > over> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>> time.> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to here your> > > > >> thoughts,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code is here:> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a demohttps://> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent > >> from my> Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl > >> -e 'print> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ActiveMQ> in Action:> > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>> http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >> > > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action:> > > >> >> > >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:> > >> http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >>> > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Clebert > >> Suconic> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>>>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> perl> -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Blog:> > >> http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > > > >>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action:> > >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > >> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > Twitter:> > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > perl -e 'print> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > > >> > >>>>> );'> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action:> > >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > >> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > Twitter:> > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> -->> > > >> > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > --> > >>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> --> > > >> perl > >> -e> 'print> > > >>> > >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >> > >> );'> > > >>> > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >>> > >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> Twitter:> > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >>> > > >> > >> >-- Clebert Suconic > >
