Only 2 PRs in one repo closed unexpectedly, all the rest remained open
as expected (including newer and older PRs in the same repo; it's not
clear why those 2 were different).

It is easy to spot the PRs affected if it happens and react to it as
needed, and would happen similarly with the other approach but
affecting all PRs, so I wouldnt especially delay things due to it
personally (and note Infra are backlogged, so you will likely need to
wait a bit already). Though of course merging anything that can be
first wouldnt be a bad thing.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 18:11, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I was just waiting the outcome from you before I went ahead with
> ActiveMQ changes..
>
>
> @all should we merge as many Pull Requests we would like and some
> cleanup before we go ahead with the change? since they are going to be
> closed apparently?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM Robbie Gemmell
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Infra did a test change on a single repo last week and all the
> > remaining repos today, so we have now renamed all the Qpid repository
> > branches from master to main using GitHub.
> >
> > It was straightforward and as expected for the most part, though there
> > were a couple of slight oddities:
> > - A couple of PRs did close unexpectedly saying master was deleted,
> > but the rest remained open and were rebased onto main as expected.
> > It's easy to tell if it happens.
> > - A variable number of commits per repo (some none, mostly only a few,
> > but 40 in one case) caused some 'replay'-like behaviour without clear
> > reason, provoking JIRA commit comment updates and related mails as if
> > they had just been pushed afresh.
> >
> > In short though these oddities were no big deal and the overall
> > outcome is nicer than the new-branch + delete-master approach. I'd
> > suggest asking to do it the same way.
> >
> > The related infra JIRA for Qpid was
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21589
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 20:21, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Using the GitHub to rename would be great as any PRs will probably be
> > > included.
> > >
> > > Thanks Rob.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice ! Thanks for the update !
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > > Le 16 mars 2021 à 19:08, Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]> a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > I was originally going to begin the rename process for Qpid tomorrow,
> > > > > but in the past week I have either done or been on the receiving end
> > > > > of some GitHub-based renames elsewhere which gave a nicer end result
> > > > > than pushing a new branch and updating the default would.
> > > > >
> > > > > Knowing that it is an option to push to the Apache GitHub repos I had
> > > > > a chat with Infra about whether it might actually be possible for them
> > > > > to use the GitHub renaming tooling for this, as its just a nicer end
> > > > > state for everyone. Infra said it isnt something they have done before
> > > > > but would look into it, and could possibly try it out on the Qpid
> > > > > repos.
> > > > >
> > > > > You might want to hold off on the ActiveMQ repo changes a little to
> > > > > see what the outcome of that is.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 15:34, Clebert Suconic 
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks a lot, I have everything I need now
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I plan to work on this next week.. I will follow up with progress as 
> > > > >> I
> > > > >> go over this thread.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:24 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yep, thats the only config we have for the website auto build, which
> > > > >>> is a standard build. Essentially we just enable it and tell it which
> > > > >>> branch to build changes from (the one matching whoami) and then the
> > > > >>> target branch to commit and push any output updates to, where they 
> > > > >>> are
> > > > >>> then picked up from for the web servers.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The build itself occurs on a Builtbot CI instance at
> > > > >>> https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/7. A mail is sent on each build to
> > > > >>> commits@, e.g the latest one is:
> > > > >>>
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rc14442fcfba8395bec5207f2c43b8dbde068f369fabe50de039509fc%40%3Ccommits.activemq.apache.org%3E
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 22:46, Justin Bertram <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The website actually uses Jekyll. The branch it uses is controlled
> > > > via the
> > > > >>>> .asf.yaml file [1]. More details about this are here [2].
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Justin
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> [1] 
> > > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/blob/master/.asf.yaml
> > > > >>>> [2]
> > > > >>>>
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-JekyllCMS
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:42 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> I see the website is the pelican system.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'm not sure how the AMQ5 is configured on Jenkins... that's the
> > > > only thing
> > > > >>>>> I'm lost now.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:31 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> That's right.. I will do it for all the Branches...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> At this point now I'm looking to what I would need to change on
> > > > ci-builds
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I'm looking on ci-builds for things we would need to change..
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> however I don't understand how ActiveMQ5 is configured here:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/ActiveMQ/job/ActiveMQ/
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I could find the simple configuration on artemis, but AMQ5 is 
> > > > >>>>>> using
> > > > >>>>>> some fancy configuration that I don't know where it's taking it
> > > > from.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> @Jb or anyone can you give me some pointers here? I'm really 
> > > > >>>>>> curious
> > > > >>>>>> now.. (I know you could say you would change it. .but at this 
> > > > >>>>>> point
> > > > >>>>>> I'm trying to understand what is going on :) )
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Also: where is the build for the website? I can't find it on
> > > > >>>>>> ci-builds.apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:10 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> That’s my guess as well ;)
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Le 9 mars 2021 à 08:57, michael.andre.pearce <
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> a écrit :
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I assume the plan is to cover all repos, not just artemis.Sent
> > > > from
> > > > >>>>> my
> > > > >>>>>> Galaxy
> > > > >>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> Date: 06/03/2021  14:33  (GMT+00:00) 
> > > > >>>>>> To:
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected] Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming master as
> > > > main
> > > > >>>>> We
> > > > >>>>>> will have to create the main branch on gitbox and Infra will make
> > > > >>>>> theswitch
> > > > >>>>>> on GitHub.On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 12:15 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:> Correct, we should focus on gitbox 
> > > > >>>>>> (that’s
> > > > why
> > > > >>>>>> better to ask to infra).>> Regards> JB>> > Le 5 mars 2021 à 
> > > > >>>>>> 23:16,
> > > > Justin
> > > > >>>>>> Bertram <[email protected]> a écrit :> >> > Aren't the Apache
> > > > GitHub
> > > > >>>>>> repos just mirrors of the official versions on> > Apache's
> > > > >>>>> infrastructure?
> > > > >>>>>> I know when we merge PRs we push to> > 
> > > > >>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/.
> > > > If
> > > > >>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>> GitHub repo is just a mirror> wouldn't we> > have to rename the
> > > > branch on
> > > > >>>>>> Apache first? I'm not real clear on all the> > details of how the
> > > > >>>>>> integration works so maybe that's wrong.> >> >> > Justin> >> > On
> > > > Fri,
> > > > >>>>> Mar
> > > > >>>>>> 5, 2021 at 4:06 PM Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]>> wrote:> 
> > > > >>>>>> >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>> GitHub solved the PR move if the rename is done via their UI:> 
> > > > >>>>>> >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>> https://github.com/github/renaming <
> > > > https://github.com/github/renaming>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -Matt> >>> >>> On Mar 5, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> >> >> wrote:> >>>> >>> Good point.>
> > > > >>>> >>>
> > > > >>>>>> I’m not sure what to do with pending PRs> >>>> >>> In artemis you
> > > > could
> > > > >>>>> use
> > > > >>>>>> the scripts and they would work.> >>>> >>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at
> > > > 2:54 PM
> > > > >>>>>> Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]>> >> wrote:> >>>> >>>> +1 no
> > > > problem.
> > > > >>>>>> Please to cover the CI jobs, so we don’t lose those.> >>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> Thanks!>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Clebert Suconic <> >>
> > > > >>>>>> [email protected]>> >>>> wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>> I would 
> > > > >>>>>> like
> > > > to
> > > > >>>>>> propose to rename all of our git branches as main on> >>>>> all 
> > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > our
> > > > >>>>>> branches. This would be a very first easy step to take on> >>>>>
> > > > renaming
> > > > >>>>>> offensive language from our codebases.> >>>>>> >>>>> We could 
> > > > >>>>>> allow
> > > > some
> > > > >>>>>> time before we do that, say 7 days after we> decide> >>>>> to 
> > > > >>>>>> take
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>> move.> >>>>>> >>>>> Anyone sees a problem with that?> >>>>>> 
> > > > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > > > if
> > > > >>>>>> anyone has internal forks depending on master (say if you have a>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> downstream branch of ActiveMQ), you will likely have to update 
> > > > >>>>>> your>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> internal git repos and scripts.> >>>>>> >>>>> We could keep the
> > > > master
> > > > >>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>> some time without being updated, until> we> >>>>> remove it 
> > > > >>>>>> later.>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --> >>> Clebert Suconic> >>> >>>> --Clebert Suconic
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> Clebert Suconic
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
>
>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic

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