Could someone summarise what the proposed name changes are, here, in this 
thread? Pointing at a google doc and only giving partial examples is 1) a bit 
difficult to quickly work out what we are voting on, and 2) using a google doc 
isn't great for a longer term record.

Thanks,
Ash

> On 26 Jul 2019, at 09:14, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com> wrote:
> 
> I would like to recast the vote. Let's start from 0 :) . I would like to
> keep the July 30th 6pm CEST date, and at least three +1 (binding) votes are
> needed to pass. I marked in red the modifications to the previous proposal.
> 
> Here is the proposal (details here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8zve5S78DXcjpPttW89HnqT0M0iKjT6fo9jX57Ef6A/edit#heading=h.j4jc3i70qszo>
> )
> 
>   - *Case 1: A: Get rid of contrib,*
>   - *Case 2: A: Airflow.operators.foo_operator.FooOperator could
>   become airflow.operators.foo.FooOperator*
>   - *Case 3: C:
>   airflow.contrib.operators.gcp_bigtable_operator.BigTableOperator could
>   become airflow.gcp.operators.bigtable.BigTableOperator*
>   - *Case 4: B: no namespace introduction*
>   - *Case 5: B: Keep "Operator" (and "Sensor") suffixes on class names*
>   - *Case 6: We will treat isolated cases on case-by-case (and my team can
>   do the job of GCP-related operators)*
>   - *Case 7: Native python solution (with better IDE integration)*
> 
> This is my binding (+1) vote.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:08 AM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Felix,
>> 
>> For 7* -> I am in favour of trying the native one as well (I use IDE quite
>> often ;) )
>> 
>> J.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:34 AM Driesprong, Fokko <fo...@driesprong.frl>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Kamil for putting the document together. I wasn't able to respond
>>> earlier since I was giving Airflow workshops throughout Europe :-)
>>> 
>>> *Case 1: *Solution A → Remove everything from contrib into a single
>>> package.
>>> 
>>> To make it easier to the end-user, my preference would be to get rid of
>>> the
>>> contrib package altogether. What's in contrib or not is a tricky question,
>>> I think this is already reflected in the document since "maturity" is in
>>> quotes. What would be the moment to transfer the operator to the core or
>>> vice versa? I'm afraid that renaming contrib to incubating will confuse
>>> the
>>> user even more. For people who aren't as known with Airflow it isn't that
>>> transparent which operator lives where, especially if you don't use an IDE
>>> such as Ash ;) Besides that I don't think it is worth changing the public
>>> API just for a different name.
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok. I am convinced. I will re-cast the vote with this. It will make easier
>> as we will not have to define other rules as those that we already have.
>> 
>> 
>>> *Case 2:* Slight preference to Solution B (let's say a +0)
>>> 
>>> I like to search on Github with t, and then search for BashOperator. After
>>> the change, you should search for Operator/Bash.
>>> 
>>> Jarek, I'm confused with your vote on this, from your mail you state: -
>>> *Case 2: B: Airflow.operators.foo_operator.FooOperator could become
>>> airflow.operators.foo.FooOperator*. But the B solution is keeping it the
>>> same, so that would mean - *Case 2: B:
>>> Airflow.operators.foo_operator.FooOperator *would stay
>>> airflow.operators.foo_operator*.FooOperator*
>>> 
>>> My mistake. It was of course A. I think there is a little confusion here.
>> This case is not for changing BashOperator into Bash but for changing the
>> *module* name not the *class* name. So bash_operator.BashOperator ->
>> bash.BashOperator :) . you will still search for BashOperator in this case.
>> 
>> 
>>> *Case 3:* I'm leaning towards B
>>> 
>>> Mostly because it isn't as trivial to decide when it gets its own package
>>> or not. Besides the cloud providers, there are companies like Databricks
>>> and Qubole which might also end up with their own package because their
>>> integration is getting richer over time. Moving this is a bit painful
>>> because we need to deprecate the old path and move everything which
>>> introduces noise into version control etc.
>> 
>> 
>> I'd say, we should go for C. As I proposed. It's not as difficult as it
>> seems to group operators in packages and it has numerous advantages. The
>> nice thing about deprecations - we can do them in the __init__.py of the
>> packages which causes the noise fairly small (Git will actually realise
>> that the file has been moved and you can follow that. Maybe not as super
>> easy to merge changes later to 1.10.4  but it's not a rocket science either.
>> 
>> 
>>> *Case 7:* Python native solution
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Apart from all, great work!
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Fokko
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Op di 23 jul. 2019 om 21:27 schreef Felix Uellendall
>>> <felue...@pm.me.invalid
>>>> :
>>> 
>>>> I have no strong "No" against any proposed change of these cases. So I
>>> go
>>>> with +1 (non-binding).
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. Thanks Jarek for bringing this up again and your intense work
>>> towards
>>>> airflow currently :) and thanks to Kamil for even creating this
>>> document. I
>>>> like how the code is getting more and more consistent and clean :)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Felix
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On Jul 23, 2019, 18:34, Jarek Potiuk wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This email is calling a vote on the changes in import paths. It's been
>>>>> discussed in
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4e648d9421c792d4537f5ac66f1a16dce468f816fc5221a9f9db9433@%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E
>>>>> 
>>>>> The vote will last for at least 1 week (July 30th 6pm CEST), and at
>>> least
>>>>> three +1 (binding) votes have been cast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The proposal to vote is based on the document from Kamil
>>>>> <
>>>> 
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8zve5S78DXcjpPttW89HnqT0M0iKjT6fo9jX57Ef6A/edit#
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The proposed solution is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - *Case 1: B: Contrib vs not: we move all that are "well" tested and
>>>>> rename contrib to "incubating" or similar.*
>>>>> - *Case 2: B: Airflow.operators.foo_operator.FooOperator could
>>>>> become airflow.operators.foo.FooOperator*
>>>>> - *Case 3: C:
>>>>> airflow.contrib.operators.gcp_bigtable_operator.BigTableOperator could
>>>>> become airflow.gcp.operators.bigtable.BigTableOperator*
>>>>> - *Case 4: B: no namespace introduction*
>>>>> - *Case 5: B: Keep "Operator" (and "Sensor") suffixes on class names*
>>>>> - *Case 6: We will treat isolated cases on case-by-case (and my team
>>> can
>>>>> do the job of GCP-related operators)*
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is my (binding) +1 vote.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> J.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>>> 
>>>>> M: [+48 660 796 129](tel:+48660796129)
>>> <[+48660796129](tel:+48660796129)>
>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jarek Potiuk
>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>> 
>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jarek Potiuk
> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
> 
> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>

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