Will do. I am at the FOSS Berlin now (one of the things I was
discussing at the dinner today was how we can make it works for the
ASF :). I will take a closer look when I am back (Sunday).

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:31 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> wonderful, thanks Jarek. Maybe we can discuss it further on this GitHub 
> issue? - https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/22349. Please feel free to 
> edit the body of my comment if you’re able to.
> ---
> nick
>
> On Mar 15, 2022, at 14:13, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I confirm that we can submit one submission per project :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 7:10 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> All right. Looks like we've got some ways to handle it (Got the
> response from Greg/Infra and the GSoD) and seems that both approaches
> are workable.
>
> Now I think what's left is to prepare proposal(s) for the
> documentation project(s). Nick - would that be possible to start
> creating a doc for that?
>
> And maybe others would like to join?
>
> I will see in the meantime if there is a possibility to apply for more
> than one project from Apache (which would make it even more
> appealing).
>
> J.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 10:47 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just a bit of status/update (and warning).
>
> The new rules **might** mean that we won't be able to take part. They
> require the organization to receive the grants that are targeted to
> particular individuals, and this is against the ASF rules - as the ASF
> does not really pay individuals for code improvements, I am trying to
> check it two-fold:
>
> * I check if we can get through ASF Infra (not very likely)
> * I just asked the question at the GSoD discussion list -
> https://groups.google.com/g/season-of-docs-discuss/c/gPdh0PYQaU4/m/ywaXlU4QAgAJ
> to check if they can adjust their rules.
>
> J.
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:17 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> FYI. It seems that this year the rules changed a bit and the organization 
> involvement is much more "formal" (seems that ASF will have to get a grant 
> and pay the writers).  I reached out to dev@community to see how we can do 
> that:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/x52xrnz463b3r83ykg14oztsms6681sr
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 10:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Sounds good, thanks so much Jarek for doing what you do!
>
> I think Airflow has some incredible docs on how to use the program itself. 
> I’m interested in writing docs about how to use Airflow as a team, which I 
> don’t think is fully covered yet. Like, how should pull requests work? How 
> should a staging environment be used? (should there even be one b/c duping 
> large prod tables is tough)? How do hotfixes work? Git Flow? etc. I’m 
> interested in these things b/c I don’t have the answers yet, nor do I think 
> there’ll be a definitive one, but I think a lot of people using Airflow can 
> benefit from strong recommendations.
>
> I’m happy to broach other topics if you all decide and will wait on what org 
> I should submit this under before continuing.
>
> Thanks!
> ---
> nick
>
> On Mar 6, 2022, at 06:20, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey Nick, Giorgio,
>
> Apologies for a little delay.
>
> [Goirgio - just to clarify - would you also like to help with the Season of 
> Docs or Outreachy new round ?. The latter can only be led by PMC members - 
> rule of Outreachy, so it would need someone from the PMC to sign-up as mentor]
>
> Going back to the Season of Docs:
>
> Nick - At this stage it seems that the organizations need to sign-up to 
> participate (deadline March 25) but we would need some brainstorming on 
> Project Ideas. In the meantime I can check what's the ASF approach (if we 
> still are OK to submit as a separate project). I will ask in a separate 
> thread.
>
> Unlike in Outreachy,  I think there are no "formal" requirements for the 
> people who submit the organization.
> Last time when I did it for GSOC (April 2019) I wasn't a committer yet :) - 
> and I submitted it based on having support from Aizhamal (CC:d) and other PMC 
> members and at that time it was decided that each project from Apache will 
> apply individually rather than as the whole Apache organization to increase 
> the possible number of Technical Writers we could get.
>
> Some relevant threads from 2019:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/x6ssgo2zczvfo4wd0qjwr51d03lhkrjz
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/w2qm09ovlxr4bftvjvl68f361ff6zoff
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/q4rv750mn52f1s034w9wh9lwodzj3w57
>
> What we need I think:
>
> - check with ASF on submission (I can take that on)
> - start brainstorming/doc on the projects we can do (looking at you Nick to 
> lead it :))
>
> - last but not least - maybe others would like to join the effort too 
> (defining the project and guiding/helping the tech writers).
>
> I think it would be great to have more contributors who are also users of 
> Airflow to help. I think as committers and PMC members - unless we are also 
> users.
> Our "assumptions" might make the user documentation we write a bit cryptic, 
> and we might not realize that some things are not clear, so if we have a few 
> heavy "users" we have who are struggling with the current documentation they 
> might guide the Technical Writer much better than committers. That might be a 
> fantastic contribution to the project :).
>
> J.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:32 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, just to be clear, I’d be submitting an application for myself on 
> behalf of Airflow here? Thanks,
> ---
> nick
>
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 17:50, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is cool. Thanks Nick and Giorgio !
>
> Let me just forward the message about google season of docs (see below).
>
> I think there are also more people interested in making our documentation 
> better - so maybe a few more volunteers will pop up :)
> The deadline to apply is 25 of March - I think having a technical writer who 
> can help with that might be cool.
>
> Maybe someone would like to take a lead in defining the scope of the project 
> - what to improve, what focus, what we want to achieve etc. :). For example 
> starting a shared doc with some proposals. I think that might be a good 
> start. Once we see that we have a concrete proposal, I can take it on and 
> find out what to do to make ASF apply :).
>
> WDYT? anyone who would like to take a lead on that :) ?
>
> J,
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> 发件人: Season of Docs - Announce <[email protected]>
> Date: 2022年2月24日周四 01:20
> Subject: [Season of Docs - Announcements] 2022 organization applications
> are now open
> To: Season of Docs - Announce <[email protected]>
>
>
> Open source organizations can now submit applications to participate in
> Season of Docs! The deadline to apply is March 25, 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
> Season of Docs allows open source organizations to apply for a grant based
> on their documentation needs. If selected, open source organizations will
> use their grant to hire a technical writer directly to complete their
> documentation project.
>
> How does my organization apply to take part in Season of Docs?
>
> Take a look at the examples of project ideas
> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas>, then
> create a project proposal
> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-proposal-template>
> based on your open source project’s actual documentation needs. Your goal
> is to attract technical writers to your organization, making them feel
> comfortable about approaching the organization and excited about what they
> can achieve.
>
> Organizations can submit their applications here: https://goo.gle/3dRyD7P
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSehVjMLUjnoPgS8kX4ErpE76N-KWc3AgrCyCxe7bRrtDm6tew/closedform?resourcekey=0-GIaZX6zeX6zvB58FARfOHQ>.
> Organization applications close on March 25th at 18:00 UTC.
>
> Season of Docs allows open source organizations to apply for a grant based
> on their documentation needs. If selected, open source organizations will
> use their grant to hire a technical writer directly to complete their
> documentation project.
>
> How do technical writers take part in Season of Docs?
>
> Technical writers interested in working with accepted open source
> organizations can share their contact information via the Season of Docs
> GitHub repository <https://github.com/google/season-of-docs>; or they may
> submit proposals directly to the organizations using the contact
> information shared on the organization project page. Technical writers do
> not submit a formal application through Season of Docs.
>
> Technical writers interested in participating in the 2022 Season of Docs
> should read our guide for technical writers
> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide> on
> the Season of Docs website. Please note that technical writer recruiting
> began on February 3, 2022.
>
> For more information about the program visit the Season of Docs site
> <http://developers.google.com/season-of-docs>. If you have additional
> questions, please email the Season of Docs team at [email protected]
> .
>
> Best,
>
> The Season of Docs team
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:30 PM Giorgio Zoppi <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Same here Jarek,
> I am willing to help. This has been the reason that I joined the last call. 
> It will nice to have a better monitoring.
>
>
>
>

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