I also check that Oracle not provide MySQL 5.7 server binaries for modern
Linux distributions, see:
https://www.mysql.com/support/supportedplatforms/database.html

So I agree that it would be strange if we would support 5.7 for new (after
October 2023) versions of Airflow.

----
Best Wishes
*Andrey Anshin*



On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 23:51, Ferruzzi, Dennis <ferru...@amazon.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Very detailed, thanks.    I think I want to lean towards whatever the
> official support for the package is and not measure ourselves by what the
> various SaaS options are doing.  I think there will always be some cloud
> provider lagging or keeping some old legacy version alive well beyond it's
> lifecycle and we should focus on whatever the actual lifecycle is as
> defined by the package itself (ie drop a MySQL version after 8 years when
> it's no longer supported, etc).  It seems to me that any cloud
> providers/SaaS options would have newer options so worst case we're not
> removing them from the ecosystem, just potentially forcing some users to
> upgrade off of an EoL product.
>
>
> - ferruzzi
>
>
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> *From:* Andrey Anshin <andrey.ans...@taragol.is>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2023 4:47 AM
> *To:* dev@airflow.apache.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Discussion] DB backend versions policy
>
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> Hi devs!
>
> That discussion about whether we need any policy for supported DB backends
> versions or not. And when we should drop specific version of DB backend
>
> It is continuation of discussion in Slack about when we potentially could
> drop support of MySQL 5.7 -
> https://apache-airflow.slack.com/archives/CCPRP7943/p1675423229599569
>
> Just as remainder, currently supported DB and versions
>
>    - PostgreSQL: 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
>    - MySQL: 5.7, 8
>    - SQLite: 3.15.0+
>    - MS SQL Server (Experimental): 2017, 2019
>
> We drop support for PostgreSQL 10 in the November 2022 (as soon as
> community support is over, see:
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/27594) and add support for
> PostgreSQL 15 (https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/27444)
>
> Should we do the same with MySQL 5.7? Unfortunately I can't  find any
> information about how long Oracle provides community support for MySQL,
> only for the commercial version: 5 year Premier Support + 3 Year Extended
> (see: https://www.mysql.com/support/). As soon as extended over no new
> patches/bug/updates fixes provided. So potentially we also could drop
> support of MySQL 5.7 after October 2023 and remove all related to MySQL 5.7
> code from Airflow Core.
>
> Another option is to create policy based on how long Cloud Providers or
> DBaaS providers support specific versions. I did some quick investigation
> for AWS, GCP and Azure
>
>
> *PostgreSQL*
>
> Life Cycle is 5 years after initial release. One major release each year,
> usually a new version released in October.
> Community EOL PostgreSQL 11 in October-November 2023
> Next version PostgreSQL 16
>
> *AWS RDS (exclude Aurora)*
>
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/PostgreSQLReleaseNotes/postgresql-release-calendar.html
>
>    - Supported versions: 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
>    - EOL for PostgreSQL 10 is April 2023 (see
>    
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html#PostgreSQL.Concepts.General.DBVersions.Deprecation10
>    )
>    - EOL for PostgreSQL 11 (minimal formally supported by Airflow): N/A,
>    my assumption is April 2024
>
> *Google Cloud SQL*
> https://cloud.google.com/sql/docs/postgres/db-versions
>
>
>    - Supported versions: 9.6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
>    - I can't find any info about date of EOL for PostgreSQL 9.6-11 in
>    Google Cloud SQL, only notice period 12 months before sustain
>
> *Azure Database for PostgreSQL - Flexible Server*
>
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/postgresql/flexible-server/concepts-supported-versions
>
>
>    - Supported versions: 11, 12, 13, 14
>    - Retirement for PostgreSQL 11 and 12 is November 2024. See:
>    
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/postgresql/single-server/concepts-version-policy#major-version-retirement-policy
>
> *MySQL*
>
> *AWS RDS (exclude Aurora)*
>
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/MySQL.Concepts.VersionMgmt.html
>
>
>    - Supported versions: 5.7, 8
>    - EOL 5.7 is October 2023, see:
>    
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/MySQL.Concepts.VersionMgmt.html#MySQL.Concepts.VersionMgmt.ReleaseCalendar
>
> *Google Cloud SQL*
> https://cloud.google.com/sql/docs/mysql/db-versions
>
>    - Supported versions 5.6, 5.7, 8
>    - I can't find any info about date of EOL for MySQL 5.6 and 5.7 in
>    Google Cloud SQL, only notice period 12 months before sustain
>
>
> *Azure Database for MySQL - Flexible Server*
>
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/mysql/single-server/overview#azure-database-for-mysql---flexible-server
>
>    - Supported versions 5.7, 8
>    - Retirement for MySQL 5.7 is October 2023, see:
>    
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/mysql/concepts-version-policy#major-version-retirement-policy
>
>
> I do not include information about MS SQL Server, because it has
> experimental support.
>
> And also I do not think that we require any policy for SQLite, since it is
> only for development purposes.
>
> ----
> Best Wishes
> *Andrey Anshin*
>
>

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