Thanks for sharing, Briana.

I got a chance to go through the doc and added my comments directly in the
document as suggestions.

Summary:
* I think we should also have questions around the operators being used by
the community
* We should ask questions regarding the security aspect too as Jarek
pointed out
* I feel that we do not have questions around scale and frequency (more so)
that DAGs are run, we can add those
* We should also discuss "other" options people use, if not airflow and why?


Thanks Andrey and Jarek, I agree with both of your points.


Thanks & Regards,
Amogh Desai

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 6:29 AM Peter DeJoy <pdejo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much for putting this together, Briana. A few thoughts from my
> end:
>
> • This isn’t particularly actionable, but right now, the survey feels
> quite long. I wonder if we can consolidate some of the questions that are
> asking for similar pieces of information in an effort to get more folks to
> complete it.
> • Similarly, I feel the pick lists are quite long. Can we flatten the
> bands down for some of the questions? For example, on the question on how
> many production deployments a user is running, we could have 1, 2-5, 5-20,
> 20-100, 100+ be options.
> • I’m not sure about the question “how many people at your company
> directly work on data?” I think we’re going to get poor signal there, as
> there’s an argument to be made that every stakeholder at our respective
> companies work on data!
> • I’d like to see backfills added to the pick list for improvements in
> Airflow in the “future” section
>     • Come to think of it, is there overlap in the “what could be
> improved” vs “what would you like to see net new” questions? For example, I
> see dataset improvement as an option in the net new question but would
> think I’d find that in the improvement section.
>
> I’m sure I’ll have some other thoughts as I dig through- will keep
> updating this thread as things come up!
>
> Thanks again,
> Pete
> On Oct 25, 2023, 3:32 PM -0400, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>, wrote:
> > Agree with Andrey's suggestions - added a few of mine directly to the
> docs
> > as comments/suggestions. Summary of my comments:
> >
> > * mentioning 2.5 providers compatibility and reasoning why people staying
> > below 2.5
> > * I thing suggesting list of services/tools Airflow might interact with
> to
> > choose, will introduce bias and will make it difficult to get "real"
> > impression on what is used. I suggest leaving it "freeform".
> > * asking questions about importance/ways how they are managing security
> of
> > their deployment (and whether they follow advisories)
> > * I think we should also ask question about "other" orchestration tools
> and
> > what made people choose airflow/consider others
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:58 PM Andrey Anshin <andrey.ans...@taragol.is>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Briana,
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing questions. Let me share some idea/improvements, but
> it
> > > only my thoughts so it could be non-relevant for create clear survey
> > >
> > > *Which version of Airflow do you currently use*
> > > Maybe it's better keep only this one?
> > > - 1.10
> > > - <=2.4
> > > - 2.5
> > > - 2.6
> > > - 2.7
> > >
> > > 1.10 it is so legacy now
> > > 2-2.4 not so legacy, but latest providers can't be install on this
> versions
> > > 2.5.x it is the highest version which might install latest providers
> > >
> > > *Which Metadata Database do you use?*
> > >
> > > My suggestion is to make this question, if it possible, only for
> > > self-hosted Airflow installation. I guess for Managed Airflow it would
> > > always be Postgres.
> > >
> > > An split this question by two different
> > >
> > > First about type of DB
> > >
> > > - MySQL (not MariaDB)
> > > - Postgres
> > > - Microsoft SQL Server
> > > - Other: ______
> > >
> > > Second one about version DB version
> > >
> > > - Version: ______
> > > - I don't know
> > >
> > > Every year new version of Postgres released, so if we consider that
> some
> > > users might still use 1.10.x then it could be a chance 9.4 - 9.5 used
> > > I think more interesting in this question is Postgres have critical
> total
> > > share value (like 80-90 of all respondent) from which we might start
> think,
> > > is actually we need in the future (Airflow 3.x/4.x) something different
> > > rather than Postgres and SQLite (for testing)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Best Wishes
> > > *Andrey Anshin*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 19:08, Briana Okyere
> > > <briana.oky...@astronomer.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey All,
> > > >
> > > > For the last few years, we've sent out surveys to get a sense of the
> > > state
> > > > of this Airflow community, and this year I've been tasked with
> > > distributing
> > > > it. I'd love to get your feedback before it's pushed live.
> > > >
> > > > I've made some minor tweaks to the 2022 survey and added the
> questions to
> > > > this google doc: <
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FbluXNGq9cI3N9zw1cH4F4cEQfyIQ6tk7tGLo4ZN4AE/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything you think should be added or removed?
> > > >
> > > > Please note- it is useful to compare data from previous years to this
> > > year,
> > > > so I believe the majority of the questions should remain similar-ish.
> > > > However, there is always room for improvement!
> > > >
> > > > Here are last year's results for reference:
> > > > <https://airflow.apache.org/blog/airflow-survey-2022/>
> > > >
> > > > Also, if anyone is interested in helping with analysis after the
> results
> > > > are in, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Briana Okyere
> > > > Community Manager
> > > > Email: briana.oky...@astronomer.io
> > > > <john....@astronomer.io>Mobile: +1 415.713.9943
> > > > Time zone: US Pacific UTC
> > > >
> > > > <https://www.astronomer.io/>
> > > >
> > >
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