As a non-committer, I am strongly in favor of this idea. Just the other
day, I was wondering if there was any way I could help make the providers’
releases happen more frequently. Although this isn’t the case here, I
believe it is a step in a good direction and will ultimately be a
significant improvement for the community, with most of the responsibility
falling on those who are interested in fixing the bug.


śr., 10 lip 2024 o 20:39 Michał Modras <michalmod...@google.com.invalid>
napisał(a):

> Huge +1 - I think this would be a super useful process, in these critical
> situations taking the burden off the release managers, and empowering
> parties that are actually pressured to act (say owners of the service the
> provider has integrations with). It also means the fixes for the overlooked
> issues are available to the whole user base earlier.
>
> Also +1 on more thorough testing of the RCs - perhaps that could be
> automated with all the dashboards that we have now.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 6:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > TL;DR; I wanted to propose one clarification to our release process
> > for providers. I've been discussing it with Elad and few other people
> > - Google team for example - and it seems that we should have some
> > clarity on when and how we "break" our more-or-less release schedule
> > for provider and allow to release a single ad-hoc provider because of
> > some serious problem discovered after the previous version was
> > released.
> >
> > Currently we do not have a "process" or agreement when and how it
> > could be done even though we have done this quite a few times in the
> > past.
> >
> > We would like it to be really exceptional case - releasing providers -
> > even if automated is a quite some overhead for release manager, and
> > the PMC members (and contributors involved with testing)  so grouping
> > it in roughly bi-weekly batches works well and two weeks in most cases
> > is not too long to wait for a fix (unless the issue is really critical
> > and widespread).
> >
> > So I wanted to formalize it a bit - in a generic way that anyone could
> > request such an ad-hoc provider release, but (and here is the catch)
> > this means that the one who requests it takes a big part of the burden
> > from the release manager and does it for him/her.
> >
> > In our release process only ONE thing needs to be done by a PMC member
> > / release manager - signing and pushing the packages to SVN. All the
> > rest - preparing documentation/changelogs bumping the version of the
> > provider, creating the "status" issue, opening a vote and following it
> > up - can be done by basically anyone (you don't have to be a
> > committer).
> >
> > The timing is good for that - after some recent changes by Amogh, even
> > the part of the release manager job that requires some "past
> > knowledge" - preparing and reviewing changelog - is way simpler. Very
> > recently Amogh improved `breeze release-management` command for it to
> > be very nicely wizard-like driven - basically after you do `breeze
> > release-management prepare-provider-documentation google` - for
> > example, you will be shown all the to-be-released PRs one-by-one, you
> > will have to classify them (bug/feature/breaking/misc) and the PR will
> > be fully generated for you (previously it required manually updating
> > the changelog and it was a bit tedious).
> >
> > Generally speaking it's just following a well maintained script and
> > asking the release manager to build and commit packages in the middle
> > of it.
> >
> > We could update the process and instructions to describe this and we
> > could run a test release or two like that to make sure this process
> > works.
> >
> > Two notes:
> >
> > * This should only happen for very important/critical issues that
> > affect potentially a lot of users
> >
> > * If the person/stakeholder who wants to get the release have not
> > tested/announced the status of the previously released package RC (in
> > the "status" issue) that could have detect the problem, I'd say that's
> > a strong indication that it can wait for the next wave (i.e. you had a
> > chance to test it last time). Testing and commenting on the previous
> > wave is a good indication that it just "slipped through" not because
> > the provider was not looked at when RC was there, but because it was
> > just accidentally missed during testing.
> >
> > I imagine the process like that:
> >
> > a) (say) John (made up name) sees a need to release ad-hoc release for
> > a provider
> > b) John prepares a documentation PR for this provider
> > c) John pings #release-management channel explaining why there is a need
> > for it
> > d) Release manager either reject it (it's the RMs decision) or agrees
> > (and in the second case merges PR, builds the package and pushes it to
> > SVN/PyPI
> > e) John continues with release process
> > f) after voting is done Release Manager pushes packages to
> > "downloads.apache.org" and PyPi
> > g) John continues with all the remaining steps (announcement, closing
> > issue etc.)
> >
> > That would be a very little overhead for the release manager, and the
> > driving force and the burden for such an ad-hoc release (including
> > following up with testing in the "status" issue) will remain with the
> > one who wants the release out.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> >
> > J.
> >
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