Thanks for the detailed explanation and for driving this effort—it looks
like a solid improvement.

   1.

   I love the approach & new structure. I can't think of a better approach.
   2.

   I agree that adding a pre-commit check to enforce consistent imports is
   a good idea. It will help maintain the new structure and prevent
   regressions.
   3.

   For the naming, I’d prefer using unit instead of provider_tests to keep
   it more intuitive and consistent with system and integration. This makes
   the structure self-explanatory and easier for new contributors.


Regards,
Rahul Vats

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 03:50, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> > 2) no real opinion, seems useful. Let’s see if we can do it with a ruff
> rule first? It _might_ be possible. (It is possible to extend the ruff
> rules on a per subproject basis, check out task_sdk/pyproject.toml)
>
> I am not sure if we need ruff rule for it, as we have not yet enabled any
> `ruff` airflow rules in airflow development (it is targeted so far for
> users writing DAGs}
>
> I think it's more "airflow internal" rule not something that can be used
> for general audience (which is pretty-much what ruff rules are about)
>
> Unfortunately - the current way ruff works does not allow local
> "plugin" functionality to add new rules that would only be applicable to
> the current project you are in. In the absence of that feature, having a
> python pre-commit seem the next-best thing.
>
> J.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 10:50 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > 100%. It’s on my list to tackle very soon, it can’t get put off much
> > longer.
> >
> > I have some thoughts (around back compat mostly) but they aren’t
> collected
> > yet, and I won’t derail this thread.
> >
> > > On 15 Feb 2025, at 21:43, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > cc: @ashb @uranusjr @kaxil -> something for consideration in our
> > > discussions on how to repackage airlfow soon. I keep on explaining why
> > > running code in airflow.__init__.py is a bad idea and advocating for
> > > removal of it and replace it with explicit initialization, yet that
> topic
> > > have not been discussed yet, but I will plan to start a discussion
> about
> > it
> > > soon once we approach the packaging subject. I am not sure what's your
> > > thinking is about this - I know you spent consirderable amount of time
> on
> > > doing all the "lazy initalization" dance all over the places, and I
> think
> > > it adds a lot of complexity to our code and only partially solves the
> > > cicular imports problem. But I know @ashb has very strong feeling about
> > > being able to do "from airlfow import Dag" - which more or less
> requires
> > > all this complexity. I just don't think it's worth it.
> >
> >
>

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