Amazing!:) Maybe we can divide and conquer this on structure changes and
pre-commit rather than leaving you with all :)

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025, 10:45 Jarek Potiuk, <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> Yeah "unit" seems to be the way to go :) . I will make another giant PR
> (but this time it should be even easier to review) to convert to it :)
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 10:41 AM Buğra Öztürk <ozturkbugr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the effort on this! It looks great!
> > - The approach looks great!
> > - Heavy plus one on this. The pre-commit should be one of the ground
> > pillars of any standardisation. Having an extra file structure check
> could
> > be included too on top of `from` to eliminate new providers to follow the
> > consistent structure.
> > - I like the unit too over provider_tests. It is a great idea to
> eliminate
> > ambiguity. The other parts seem pretty pretty good.
> >
> > Along with the latest improvements, these will be great additions!
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 4:15 AM Rahul Vats <rah.sharm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the detailed explanation and for driving this effort—it
> looks
> > > like a solid improvement.
> > >
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    I love the approach & new structure. I can't think of a better
> > approach.
> > >    2.
> > >
> > >    I agree that adding a pre-commit check to enforce consistent imports
> > is
> > >    a good idea. It will help maintain the new structure and prevent
> > >    regressions.
> > >    3.
> > >
> > >    For the naming, I’d prefer using unit instead of provider_tests to
> > keep
> > >    it more intuitive and consistent with system and integration. This
> > makes
> > >    the structure self-explanatory and easier for new contributors.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rahul Vats
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 03:50, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > 2) no real opinion, seems useful. Let’s see if we can do it with a
> > ruff
> > > > rule first? It _might_ be possible. (It is possible to extend the
> ruff
> > > > rules on a per subproject basis, check out task_sdk/pyproject.toml)
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure if we need ruff rule for it, as we have not yet enabled
> > any
> > > > `ruff` airflow rules in airflow development (it is targeted so far
> for
> > > > users writing DAGs}
> > > >
> > > > I think it's more "airflow internal" rule not something that can be
> > used
> > > > for general audience (which is pretty-much what ruff rules are about)
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately - the current way ruff works does not allow local
> > > > "plugin" functionality to add new rules that would only be applicable
> > to
> > > > the current project you are in. In the absence of that feature,
> having
> > a
> > > > python pre-commit seem the next-best thing.
> > > >
> > > > J.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 10:50 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 100%. It’s on my list to tackle very soon, it can’t get put off
> much
> > > > > longer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some thoughts (around back compat mostly) but they aren’t
> > > > collected
> > > > > yet, and I won’t derail this thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 15 Feb 2025, at 21:43, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cc: @ashb @uranusjr @kaxil -> something for consideration in our
> > > > > > discussions on how to repackage airlfow soon. I keep on
> explaining
> > > why
> > > > > > running code in airflow.__init__.py is a bad idea and advocating
> > for
> > > > > > removal of it and replace it with explicit initialization, yet
> that
> > > > topic
> > > > > > have not been discussed yet, but I will plan to start a
> discussion
> > > > about
> > > > > it
> > > > > > soon once we approach the packaging subject. I am not sure what's
> > > your
> > > > > > thinking is about this - I know you spent consirderable amount of
> > > time
> > > > on
> > > > > > doing all the "lazy initalization" dance all over the places,
> and I
> > > > think
> > > > > > it adds a lot of complexity to our code and only partially solves
> > the
> > > > > > cicular imports problem. But I know @ashb has very strong feeling
> > > about
> > > > > > being able to do "from airlfow import Dag" - which more or less
> > > > requires
> > > > > > all this complexity. I just don't think it's worth it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bugra Ozturk
> >
>

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