> Just wondernig... would an optional dependency not be the right place to
describe that apache-airflow-providers-google[tests] would have an
dependency to the common_tests subproject?
> Would mean you would need to install via
> pip install -e . -e ./task_sdk[tests] -e. ./providers/google[tests]

Something like that. This is more of a details of workspace but we are
going to use "dev" dependency group for that - rather than extra. Details
to be worked out how pip interaction will look like (pip does not have
support for dependency groups yet - they are coming in 25.1 - they are
already merged in main)

With `uv` dependency groups can be used today and "dev" dependency group is
installed automatically when you run uv sync or `uv pip install -e.` -> so
we will follow this along

See details about "development dependencies" in uv here
https://docs.astral.sh/uv/concepts/projects/dependencies/#development-dependencies

Dependency groups are already approved via PEP-735
https://peps.python.org/pep-0735/ and as mentioned - we are a release away
from having them released in `pip`, so for now we will have to emulate it
with extras for pip case I think but we will be able to remove it when pip
25.1 is released and matures a bit.

J.









On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:23 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> > I would love to see some airflow_testing package which will be useful for
> testing airflow-related projects and involve independently.
>
> > Certainly, it's not a good thing to have tests import something from
> tests.
> New packages as projects are cheap and provide more flexibility and are
> useful from outside of the project.
>
> I already explained in the PR, but let me repeat my opinion  here:
>
> IMHO It's extremely unlikely we are going to release and publish the
> common test code / fixtures in any way. They will continue to be in
> development-only-distribution and they will be treated as "internal detail".
>
> If we decide to release and publish them, we will have to maintain
> backwards compatibility and account for our users (like you) using them for
> their own purpose. That would block us or make it very difficult to make
> breaking changes in them.
>
> So while you will be free to continue copying the whole distribution and
> use it in your tests as you want (our licence allows that) - I seriously
> doubt we will ever release and publish it in "reusable form" with
> "compatibility guarantees". It's far more efficient if people like you just
> copy them and are aware that they can change any time.
>
> J.
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:21 PM Alexander Shorin <kxe...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I would love to see some airflow_testing package which will be useful for
>> testing airflow-related projects and involve independently.
>>
>> Certainly, it's not a good thing to have tests import something from
>> tests.
>> New packages as projects are cheap and provide more flexibility and are
>> useful from outside of the project.
>>
>> Also this project could have a future for testing, compatibility, quality
>> and rest of measuring.
>>
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello here,
>> >
>> > Next phase of the cleanup - it's been sped up  by the comment from
>> @kxepal
>> >  - https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/46801#issuecomment-2661415731
>> -
>> > I
>> > have planned to do it a bit later this week, but maybe indeed it's a
>> good
>> > idea to start a discussion now so that people are not confused.
>> >
>> > Currently we are using "from tests_common"  to reuse code in various
>> > providers and airflow, and this is fine, with the exception that
>> > "tests_common" is currently just a package in "airflow" main project.
>> But
>> > it does not have to be (or rather it should not be).
>> >
>> > We should have it in a separate sub-project - similarly as providers/*
>> and
>> > task_sdk are now separate projects - and we should add dependency to the
>> > common test code distribution from within all the projects that use it
>> (via
>> > workspace feature).
>> >
>> > My proposal is to name it "common_test_code" (but I am open to any
>> > suggestions): It will look like this
>> >
>> > .
>> > |- airflow
>> > |- common_test_code
>> >                   | pyproject.toml
>> >                   | src
>> >                        | tests_common
>> >
>> > The code in airflow and providers will not change, they will continue to
>> > use "from tests_common import ...".
>> >
>> > * uv will work as it used to work, no changes will be needed - uv sync
>> will
>> > automatically install the common_test_code as editable project
>> >
>> > * additionally - (and that's a big plus) after this change you should be
>> > able to run `uv sync` in a provider folder and have provider-specific
>> > separate venv, and basically you should be able to run tests for a
>> provider
>> > using that .venv and generally treat provider project as a "standalone"
>> one
>> > - this is what I hinted at in the previous mail.
>> >
>> > * people who do not use uv but pip for example will have to manually add
>> > the `common_test_code` as an editable install in their venv. For
>> example:
>> >
>> > pip install -e . -e ./task_sdk -e. ./providers/google -e
>> ./common_test_code
>> >
>> > This is the next step in standardizing the layout of the Airflow project
>> > using workspaces.
>> >
>> > J.
>> >
>>
>

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