Main reason is that this might avoid duplication and remove ambiguity of
what is being imported. If we keep the same name, we will have to have
something like that:

a) folder where project is
b) python package we import


So ...if we do tests_common, we will have to do:

tests_common <- folder
           \pyproject.toml
           \src
               \tests_common <- Python package


And when you do:

import tests_common

Depending on the tooling, PYTHONPATH, whether implicit python packages are
enabled, WEIRD things might happen. We've seen it when we had "smtp"
provider name and it clashed with built-in package and that's why we have
now "unit.smtp", "integrations.smtp" and "system.smtp" as "canonical
imports" to avoid this problem.

This is similar - importing tests_common in this case might behave
differently if we keep the same name. That was my main motivation to have a
"different" name - whether it's "common_test_code" or something else, does
not matter, it just has to be significantly different.

Another approach could be what we did in providers, add extra package
inside the project, and import "tests_common" with a package prefix (for
example `airflow_tests`):


tests_common <- folder
           \pyproject.toml
           \src
              \airflow_tests  <- Python package
                           \tests_common <- Python package

But then we would have to change all the tests that import tests_common to:

from `airflow_tests.tests_common`

Easy to do, but I wanted to avoid another 1000+ files PR for our poor
reviewers :)

So basically, I think we have two options:

a) different "folder" name where we keep the project
b) adding parent package to "tests_common"

We could do both, I am happy with either approach but maybe we should do a
small unscientific poll, and have others propose better names (you know,
naming is hard :D).

J


pon., 17 lut 2025, 16:43 użytkownik Vincent Beck <vincb...@apache.org>
napisał:

> Overall +1 on this one. Regarding the naming, why not keeping
> "tests_common" instead of "common_test_code"? I am not a big fan of
> "common_test_code" but it is obviously just a personal opinion (as it is
> always with naming :))
>
> On 2025/02/16 13:30:09 Jarek Potiuk wrote:
> > > Just wondernig... would an optional dependency not be the right place
> to
> > describe that apache-airflow-providers-google[tests] would have an
> > dependency to the common_tests subproject?
> > > Would mean you would need to install via
> > > pip install -e . -e ./task_sdk[tests] -e. ./providers/google[tests]
> >
> > Something like that. This is more of a details of workspace but we are
> > going to use "dev" dependency group for that - rather than extra. Details
> > to be worked out how pip interaction will look like (pip does not have
> > support for dependency groups yet - they are coming in 25.1 - they are
> > already merged in main)
> >
> > With `uv` dependency groups can be used today and "dev" dependency group
> is
> > installed automatically when you run uv sync or `uv pip install -e.` ->
> so
> > we will follow this along
> >
> > See details about "development dependencies" in uv here
> >
> https://docs.astral.sh/uv/concepts/projects/dependencies/#development-dependencies
> >
> > Dependency groups are already approved via PEP-735
> > https://peps.python.org/pep-0735/ and as mentioned - we are a release
> away
> > from having them released in `pip`, so for now we will have to emulate it
> > with extras for pip case I think but we will be able to remove it when
> pip
> > 25.1 is released and matures a bit.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:23 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > I would love to see some airflow_testing package which will be
> useful for
> > > testing airflow-related projects and involve independently.
> > >
> > > > Certainly, it's not a good thing to have tests import something from
> > > tests.
> > > New packages as projects are cheap and provide more flexibility and are
> > > useful from outside of the project.
> > >
> > > I already explained in the PR, but let me repeat my opinion  here:
> > >
> > > IMHO It's extremely unlikely we are going to release and publish the
> > > common test code / fixtures in any way. They will continue to be in
> > > development-only-distribution and they will be treated as "internal
> detail".
> > >
> > > If we decide to release and publish them, we will have to maintain
> > > backwards compatibility and account for our users (like you) using
> them for
> > > their own purpose. That would block us or make it very difficult to
> make
> > > breaking changes in them.
> > >
> > > So while you will be free to continue copying the whole distribution
> and
> > > use it in your tests as you want (our licence allows that) - I
> seriously
> > > doubt we will ever release and publish it in "reusable form" with
> > > "compatibility guarantees". It's far more efficient if people like you
> just
> > > copy them and are aware that they can change any time.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:21 PM Alexander Shorin <kxe...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would love to see some airflow_testing package which will be useful
> for
> > >> testing airflow-related projects and involve independently.
> > >>
> > >> Certainly, it's not a good thing to have tests import something from
> > >> tests.
> > >> New packages as projects are cheap and provide more flexibility and
> are
> > >> useful from outside of the project.
> > >>
> > >> Also this project could have a future for testing, compatibility,
> quality
> > >> and rest of measuring.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> ,,,^..^,,,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hello here,
> > >> >
> > >> > Next phase of the cleanup - it's been sped up  by the comment from
> > >> @kxepal
> > >> >  -
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/46801#issuecomment-2661415731
> > >> -
> > >> > I
> > >> > have planned to do it a bit later this week, but maybe indeed it's a
> > >> good
> > >> > idea to start a discussion now so that people are not confused.
> > >> >
> > >> > Currently we are using "from tests_common"  to reuse code in various
> > >> > providers and airflow, and this is fine, with the exception that
> > >> > "tests_common" is currently just a package in "airflow" main
> project.
> > >> But
> > >> > it does not have to be (or rather it should not be).
> > >> >
> > >> > We should have it in a separate sub-project - similarly as
> providers/*
> > >> and
> > >> > task_sdk are now separate projects - and we should add dependency
> to the
> > >> > common test code distribution from within all the projects that use
> it
> > >> (via
> > >> > workspace feature).
> > >> >
> > >> > My proposal is to name it "common_test_code" (but I am open to any
> > >> > suggestions): It will look like this
> > >> >
> > >> > .
> > >> > |- airflow
> > >> > |- common_test_code
> > >> >                   | pyproject.toml
> > >> >                   | src
> > >> >                        | tests_common
> > >> >
> > >> > The code in airflow and providers will not change, they will
> continue to
> > >> > use "from tests_common import ...".
> > >> >
> > >> > * uv will work as it used to work, no changes will be needed - uv
> sync
> > >> will
> > >> > automatically install the common_test_code as editable project
> > >> >
> > >> > * additionally - (and that's a big plus) after this change you
> should be
> > >> > able to run `uv sync` in a provider folder and have
> provider-specific
> > >> > separate venv, and basically you should be able to run tests for a
> > >> provider
> > >> > using that .venv and generally treat provider project as a
> "standalone"
> > >> one
> > >> > - this is what I hinted at in the previous mail.
> > >> >
> > >> > * people who do not use uv but pip for example will have to
> manually add
> > >> > the `common_test_code` as an editable install in their venv. For
> > >> example:
> > >> >
> > >> > pip install -e . -e ./task_sdk -e. ./providers/google -e
> > >> ./common_test_code
> > >> >
> > >> > This is the next step in standardizing the layout of the Airflow
> project
> > >> > using workspaces.
> > >> >
> > >> > J.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
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