Nope. Separate thread :)

On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 12:00 AM Sameer Mesiah <[email protected]> wrote:

> Okay. That is perfectly fair.
>
> Also, does this email look fine to you? I believe those previous emails may
> have looked wrong because I manually copied the thread title and sent the
> emails. This time I used the reply button so I believe it should be fine as
> I can see the previous replies now.
>
> On 2026/05/19 22:42:16 Jarek Potiuk wrote:
> > NOTE. Sameer, there is **something** wrong with The responses of yours
> > (A few recent emails) regarding the mail setup and the responses are not
> > ending
> > in the same thread in Gmail (they do in Ponymail), Likey message id /
> > thread id
> > is **lost somewhere** - not sure what setup you have but I **guess** the
> > email
> > You are subscribed to the devlist, and it forwards messages, losing the
> > thread id from
> > Gmail (which seems interesting because you also use Gmail). So maybe you
> > can take a look at any non-standard setting you have ;).
> >
> > In the meantime I am copying your message here (minus praises - they are
> > very nice but it's about the merit):
> >
> > > That being said, I’ve noticed that some PRs end up in a “needs
> maintainer
> > consensus / architectural decision” state rather than having concrete
> > author-actionable issues.
> >
> > > In those cases, the auto-triage agent can repeatedly surface secondary
> > issues while missing the real blocker, which creates a slightly
> misleading
> > signal for contributors. I hit this on one of my Kubernetes PRs where the
> > underlying issue was really maintainer alignment rather than unresolved
> > implementation problems.
> >
> > > Maybe it would help to introduce a category like 'pending maintainer
> > consensus” (ormore general 'misc' category) so the tooling can
> distinguish
> > between contributor follow-up and PRs that are effectively waiting on
> > reviewer direction.
> >
> > > I understand that with the volume of PRs nowadays, there is only so
> much
> > that can be done and perhaps this has already been brought up before. But
> > the main pain point (or at least what I have personally experienced) is
> > false negatives. This is more of an annoyance than a major blocker but I
> > was just curious if something could be done on the tooling side to
> > alleviate this issue.
> >
> > Nope - nobody raised it yet, but I think it's a great feedback, and I
> think
> > it can be easily addressed, Generally the triage process does not touch
> > "Ready for maintainer review" PRs, unless they start failing (Conflicts,
> > rebases etc. - in which case the "ready for maintainer review" label is
> > removed
> > But the fix is simple: it should not be removed if there is a discussion
> is
> > started on the merit of that PR - not on mechanical failures.
> >
> > Fix here:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/airflow-steward/pull/232
> >
> > We will review it in "Magpie", merge and we upgrade
> > to the latest version before next triage.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 11:19 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have completed two PR triage sessions using the latest version of
> > > "Magpie," which includes improved stats and charts: PR Stats Dashboard
> (
> > >
>
> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://gist.githubusercontent.com/potiuk/d593b7773847e5d2f8638ad59d355842/raw/7125cc996a05e135e93dc26012816b83db1fad51/pr-stats-dashboard.html
> > > ).
> > >
> > > Observations:
> > >
> > > - AI Triage: The process is effective; "drive-by" PRs have decreased,
> and
> > > we now see a ~50% author response rate. Open/closed PR volume has
> > > stabilized at approximately 40 per day.
> > > - Review Queue: We have 154 "ready for review" PRs, over half of which
> > > have no maintainer comments. This queue is growing quickly despite
> > > automated "unlabeling" of PRs with conflicts or failing tests.
> > > - Gaps: The "providers" and "task-sdk" areas lack the most coverage.
> > >
> > > Takeaways & Discussion Points:
> > >
> > > 1. AI triage successfully filters low-quality PRs, but we need more
> > > maintainers to conduct periodic reviews in their specific areas.
> > > 2. Reviews can be done manually via the "ready for review" label or
> > > assisted by the agent using /setup-steward and
> /pr-management-code-review.
> > > 3. We need to revamp CODEOWNERS to clarify whether listing implies
> > > observation or a commitment to review and to cover unassigned areas.
> > >
> > > I look forward to your thoughts on how we can improve these processes.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jarek Potiuk
> > >
> >
>

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