Now, all is good.

On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 12:11 AM Sameer Mesiah <[email protected]> wrote:

> How does this look now? I was creating new emails before. Now, I am
> replying in the same thread.
>
>
> On Wed, 20 May 2026 at 00:02, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Nope. Separate thread :)
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 12:00 AM Sameer Mesiah <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Okay. That is perfectly fair.
> > >
> > > Also, does this email look fine to you? I believe those previous emails
> > may
> > > have looked wrong because I manually copied the thread title and sent
> the
> > > emails. This time I used the reply button so I believe it should be
> fine
> > as
> > > I can see the previous replies now.
> > >
> > > On 2026/05/19 22:42:16 Jarek Potiuk wrote:
> > > > NOTE. Sameer, there is **something** wrong with The responses of
> yours
> > > > (A few recent emails) regarding the mail setup and the responses are
> > not
> > > > ending
> > > > in the same thread in Gmail (they do in Ponymail), Likey message id /
> > > > thread id
> > > > is **lost somewhere** - not sure what setup you have but I **guess**
> > the
> > > > email
> > > > You are subscribed to the devlist, and it forwards messages, losing
> the
> > > > thread id from
> > > > Gmail (which seems interesting because you also use Gmail). So maybe
> > you
> > > > can take a look at any non-standard setting you have ;).
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime I am copying your message here (minus praises - they
> > are
> > > > very nice but it's about the merit):
> > > >
> > > > > That being said, I’ve noticed that some PRs end up in a “needs
> > > maintainer
> > > > consensus / architectural decision” state rather than having concrete
> > > > author-actionable issues.
> > > >
> > > > > In those cases, the auto-triage agent can repeatedly surface
> > secondary
> > > > issues while missing the real blocker, which creates a slightly
> > > misleading
> > > > signal for contributors. I hit this on one of my Kubernetes PRs where
> > the
> > > > underlying issue was really maintainer alignment rather than
> unresolved
> > > > implementation problems.
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe it would help to introduce a category like 'pending
> maintainer
> > > > consensus” (ormore general 'misc' category) so the tooling can
> > > distinguish
> > > > between contributor follow-up and PRs that are effectively waiting on
> > > > reviewer direction.
> > > >
> > > > > I understand that with the volume of PRs nowadays, there is only so
> > > much
> > > > that can be done and perhaps this has already been brought up before.
> > But
> > > > the main pain point (or at least what I have personally experienced)
> is
> > > > false negatives. This is more of an annoyance than a major blocker
> but
> > I
> > > > was just curious if something could be done on the tooling side to
> > > > alleviate this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Nope - nobody raised it yet, but I think it's a great feedback, and I
> > > think
> > > > it can be easily addressed, Generally the triage process does not
> touch
> > > > "Ready for maintainer review" PRs, unless they start failing
> > (Conflicts,
> > > > rebases etc. - in which case the "ready for maintainer review" label
> is
> > > > removed
> > > > But the fix is simple: it should not be removed if there is a
> > discussion
> > > is
> > > > started on the merit of that PR - not on mechanical failures.
> > > >
> > > > Fix here:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow-steward/pull/232
> > > >
> > > > We will review it in "Magpie", merge and we upgrade
> > > > to the latest version before next triage.
> > > >
> > > > J.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 11:19 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have completed two PR triage sessions using the latest version of
> > > > > "Magpie," which includes improved stats and charts: PR Stats
> > Dashboard
> > > (
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://gist.githubusercontent.com/potiuk/d593b7773847e5d2f8638ad59d355842/raw/7125cc996a05e135e93dc26012816b83db1fad51/pr-stats-dashboard.html
> > > > > ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Observations:
> > > > >
> > > > > - AI Triage: The process is effective; "drive-by" PRs have
> decreased,
> > > and
> > > > > we now see a ~50% author response rate. Open/closed PR volume has
> > > > > stabilized at approximately 40 per day.
> > > > > - Review Queue: We have 154 "ready for review" PRs, over half of
> > which
> > > > > have no maintainer comments. This queue is growing quickly despite
> > > > > automated "unlabeling" of PRs with conflicts or failing tests.
> > > > > - Gaps: The "providers" and "task-sdk" areas lack the most
> coverage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Takeaways & Discussion Points:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. AI triage successfully filters low-quality PRs, but we need more
> > > > > maintainers to conduct periodic reviews in their specific areas.
> > > > > 2. Reviews can be done manually via the "ready for review" label or
> > > > > assisted by the agent using /setup-steward and
> > > /pr-management-code-review.
> > > > > 3. We need to revamp CODEOWNERS to clarify whether listing implies
> > > > > observation or a commitment to review and to cover unassigned
> areas.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look forward to your thoughts on how we can improve these
> > processes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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