From: Gerard Toonstra [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:01 PM
To: [email protected]; Wang, Larry <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Qs on airflow

Hi Larry,

The important thing to question is what kind of interface that other system 
has. It is a little bit unusual in the sense that this DAG processes across 
multiple days.
The potential issue I foresee here is that you don't mention a consistent start 
date for the DAG and you expect this to run in an ad-hoc manner. Most DAGs 
would process
"windows" of activity and you may get some issues with the time always 
resetting to the defined scheduled start of the DAG.

What most DAGs would do to enable this is to have sensor tasks in the DAG. A 
Hadoop job for example executes asynchronously from the originating request.
You'd have a task to kick off the job, save the job id and then in another task 
fetch the job id through xcom and continue polling using this sensor task to 
verify
if the job finished (with either failed or finished). Then you allow the DAG to 
continue or fail.


So this is where the job interface question comes into play. It depends what 
you have available to verify the status of jobs and then you'd probably write 
some
operators around that job interface. If these jobs never surpass a week, then 
you could start defining a week interval, so you're never crossing these 
boundaries.

Then look into for example the LatestOnlyOperator on how you can get the 
left-most execution date (datetime) when the dagrun was started. There should 
be other
ways to get the exact start/datetime of the task of your interest (when the job 
was started), then figure out the total processing time you need. Then run that 
sensor
every hour in a retry or something.


Alternatives are to look at what these tasks produce. For example, if you drop 
files into S3 at the end of a process, look for those artifacts as a means to
identify if the task succeeded or failed. Or perhaps even easier, write control 
files in each workload that you can check for in airflow, which can be easier 
than having to
implement a job control interface thingy.


You could also start the DAG and rely on 'retry' functionality in airflow and 
then you calculate what interval size and how many retries you need to get to 3 
days in total,
after which that task fails.


Rgds,

Gerard


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Wang, Larry 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Any updates on this?

we basically want to build following DAG, and the group of BBTs in rectangle( 
start with snap should be triggered in daily basis)



From: Wang, Larry
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:23 PM
To: '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Qs on airflow

Hi experts,

I am new to airflow and want to ask some questions of it to see if it is 
possible to leverage this tool in our daily works, please check them in below.

1st, I am implementing a system with 3 level workloads, the 1st workloads is 
triggered at day 1, and then the 2nd workload is triggered at day 3 only if the 
1st job could run long enough with 3 days and then the last workload will be 
trigger at day 5 if both previous workloads could continue running. Is this 
possible mapping to DAGs of the airflow?

2nd, Given the 1st workloads warming  up and  keep consuming certain system 
resources, a bunch operation will be kicked out in a queue, is it possible?

Thanks and best regards
Larry  Wang


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