Hi Jeff,

I agree that it would be a good idea to merge the two projects.
I think adding the project to the ArgoUML site an refer from
sourceforge is a good option. Since I finished my studies and
have a job I don't have as much time as I would like to have to
keep working on argouml-sql. I just can offer a few hours every
week.

Kai

Am 14.09.2007, 15:40 Uhr, schrieb Gunderson, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi Linus,


It would be good to hear from Kai as we did not think adding a project with the same goals as argouml-sql would be good. Long term we could merge the projects but we don't know enough about argouml-sql.


We were also wanting this to have some identity as a database modeling tool. If it's on the ArgoUML site then people familiar with ArgoUML would find it, but people looking for an open source database modeling tool might not.


If Kai agrees, maybe we could add it as a project to ArgoUML and have a SourceForge site that refers to the Argo site?


Jeff


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linus Tolke
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql


Hello Jeff!


This sounds great.


I could create another project for you on tigris if you can just come up with another name.

argouml-db?

argouml-sql2?

argouml-reverse-engineering-sql? (This might be too long to be accepted ;-)


The best thing would be if you could provide both implementations from the same project and eventually a merge to provide the best possible features for the users of ArgoUML.


        /Linus


2007/9/13, Gunderson, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

It's taken longer than I would expect but we finally have our module working now with the ArgoUML 2.4 version.

We are thinking of putting it up on SourceForge as there already an argouml-sql project. If anyone wants to see the User Guide or wants me to send the module let me know.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Gunderson, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql

Yes, the tool can already generate SQL for the databases below and can reverse engineer an existing database. The profile we are using is described in the document I sent.

I'll try to get the project available for open source as soon as I can. Until then, I could put together a running version based on an older version of argouml if you want to see it.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Kai Drahmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql

A while back we worked on an argouml plug-in for SQL support.  We had to
shelve the project with changing priorities but we are dusting it off
again as we see a fit with our warehousing products.  After getting back
into argouml I noticed the argouml-sql project and thought there could
be an opportunity to work together.

The plug-in uses a UML profile for modeling SQL and provides support for
generating models from a database catalog and generating SQL to create
and update a catalog from a model.  It provides support for generic,
Oracle, PostgreSQL and MySQL datatbases.  The profile is somewhat
similar to the UML profile used by Rational for modeling SQL.  I
attached a document on the profile if you are interested.

So the tool can already generate SQL for the databases you mentioned
and reverse engineer an existing database? But perhaps only using the
profile you use for modelling. I used a profile that's based on Scott
Ambler's profile at:

http://www.agiledata.org/essays/umlDataModelingProfile.html

I modified it a bit to be able to design a logical relational datamodel.
And perhaps you could extract the important information of the attached
document so I can compare the two profiles.

There are several hurdles.  We have not worked on the project in a year
and argouml has changed quite a bit.  So it's taking a bit of work to
get it to the latest version.  Also, we are working to make the project
available as open source.

Like Tom said it could be a good idea to publish the sources and let
others also have a look on it. I would especially be interested in
adapting the different code generators for Oracle etc. to fit into
the current structure of ArgoUML-SQL.

Kai

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