Hi Kai,

That sounds good.  We'll look into adding a sub-project to ArgoUML and then 
work towards merging the projects in the future.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Kai Drahmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql

Hi Jeff,

I agree that it would be a good idea to merge the two projects.
I think adding the project to the ArgoUML site an refer from
sourceforge is a good option. Since I finished my studies and
have a job I don't have as much time as I would like to have to
keep working on argouml-sql. I just can offer a few hours every
week.

Kai

Am 14.09.2007, 15:40 Uhr, schrieb Gunderson, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Linus,
>
>
> It would be good to hear from Kai as we did not think adding a project  
> with the same goals as argouml-sql would be good.  Long term we could  
> merge the projects but we don't know enough about argouml-sql.
>
>
> We were also wanting this to have some identity as a database modeling  
> tool.  If it's on the ArgoUML site then people familiar with ArgoUML  
> would find it, but people looking for an open source database modeling  
> tool might not.
>
>
> If Kai agrees, maybe we could add it as a project to ArgoUML and have a  
> SourceForge site that refers to the Argo site?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linus Tolke
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql
>
>
> Hello Jeff!
>
>
> This sounds great.
>
>
> I could create another project for you on tigris if you can just come up  
> with another name.
>
> argouml-db?
>
> argouml-sql2?
>
> argouml-reverse-engineering-sql? (This might be too long to be accepted  
> ;-)
>
>
> The best thing would be if you could provide both implementations from  
> the same project and eventually a merge to provide the best possible  
> features for the users of ArgoUML.
>
>
>         /Linus
>
>
> 2007/9/13, Gunderson, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It's taken longer than I would expect but we finally have our module  
> working now with the ArgoUML 2.4 version.
>
> We are thinking of putting it up on SourceForge as there already an  
> argouml-sql project.  If anyone wants to see the User Guide or wants me  
> to send the module let me know.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunderson, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql
>
> Yes, the tool can already generate SQL for the databases below and can  
> reverse engineer an existing database.  The profile we are using is  
> described in the document I sent.
>
> I'll try to get the project available for open source as soon as I can.   
> Until then, I could put together a running version based on an older  
> version of argouml if you want to see it.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Drahmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:08 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [argouml-dev] argouml-sql
>
>> A while back we worked on an argouml plug-in for SQL support.  We had to
>> shelve the project with changing priorities but we are dusting it off
>> again as we see a fit with our warehousing products.  After getting back
>> into argouml I noticed the argouml-sql project and thought there could
>> be an opportunity to work together.
>>
>> The plug-in uses a UML profile for modeling SQL and provides support for
>> generating models from a database catalog and generating SQL to create
>> and update a catalog from a model.  It provides support for generic,
>> Oracle, PostgreSQL and MySQL datatbases.  The profile is somewhat
>> similar to the UML profile used by Rational for modeling SQL.  I
>> attached a document on the profile if you are interested.
>
> So the tool can already generate SQL for the databases you mentioned
> and reverse engineer an existing database? But perhaps only using the
> profile you use for modelling. I used a profile that's based on Scott
> Ambler's profile at:
>
> http://www.agiledata.org/essays/umlDataModelingProfile.html
>
> I modified it a bit to be able to design a logical relational datamodel.
> And perhaps you could extract the important information of the attached
> document so I can compare the two profiles.
>
>> There are several hurdles.  We have not worked on the project in a year
>> and argouml has changed quite a bit.  So it's taking a bit of work to
>> get it to the latest version.  Also, we are working to make the project
>> available as open source.
>
> Like Tom said it could be a good idea to publish the sources and let
> others also have a look on it. I would especially be interested in
> adapting the different code generators for Oracle etc. to fit into
> the current structure of ArgoUML-SQL.
>
> Kai
>
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