I think that you have done a great job Tom, at responding to mails on the
users' mailing list and new issues in the issuezilla. Keep it up and I hope
you other's join in with your expertise.

I hope that the new user site with forums and wiki can take this to the next
level and finally creating the user community that we want.

        /Linus


2008/6/6, Tom Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:03 AM, "Andreas Rückert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > OSS often solved special problems, that no company was willing to solve
> (for a
> > reasonable price). But I thought, it's the problem, that drives the
> development,
> > not just development for the sake of development.
>
> I think open source developers code for different reasons.  For some
> it's just a hobby or a way to play with new or different technology
> than they do in their "day job."  In these cases it literally is
> "development for the sake of development."
>
> > So it seems to me, that
> > Argo has lost contact to it's userbase, and maybe it's even worse,
> because
> > noone seems to care. So in way it's a solution, that doesn't even look
> anymore
> > for a problem that fits.
>
> I totally agree with this.  When I joined a couple of years ago, I
> knew what *I* wanted ArgoUML to do, but I was curious what others used
> it for, so I asked who the target users were, what types of things
> they used ArgoUML for, etc, etc.  All I heard was resounding silence.
> No one knew.
>
> Part of the problem is that interest in UML has faded and the fact
> that we are so far behind the leading edge of the technology certainly
> doesn't help, but I can't help thinking that at least part of the
> problem is that the users are actively ignored.
>
> Look at how many bug reports go years without even getting
> acknowledged.  Check the user list archives for questions that never
> got a single response.
>
> Is it any wonder the users don't care?
>
> Tom
>
> p.s.  I bet there are some users that care, but because we're not
> engaged in a conversation with them, we've go no way of knowing.
>
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