I'll get to review the PR on Monday.  It may be too late for the release.

Regards

Antoine.


Le 08/10/2020 à 18:43, James Duong a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've edited my PR now so that:
> 1. The CMakefiles so that we can detect which namespace
> TlsCredentialsOptions are in, if any.
> 2. Conditionally compile the C++ Flight client to use the namespace to
> implement disabling server verification, or compile out the implementation
> and throw an error at runtime if it is not available and the user tries to
> enable it.
> 3. The tests are also conditionally compiled.
> 
> I feel this gives us the best of both worlds:
> 1. Users of the newer gRPCs (1.27+) can take advantage of this option and
> the namespace is mapped automatically.
> 2. Users of gRPC pre-1.27 do not need to upgrade (but will see an error if
> they use this option).
> 3. This is all transparent to someone building gRPC. There's no need to use
> additional macros.
> 
> This has now passed all 36 CI tests, except this travis-ci job that is
> still pending:
> https://travis-ci.org/github/apache/arrow/builds/734025800
> 
> Are we comfortable getting this into 2.0.0 with this design? I feel it is
> low risk now, especially since upgrading is not mandatory.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:15 PM Krisztián Szűcs <szucs.kriszt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> There is still some work left to make the packaging builds pass on the
>> PR. Considering how close we are to the release I find it risky to
>> include that change to 2.0. So I'm in favor of postponing it to 3.0.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:10 PM Micah Kornfield <emkornfi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Antoine that we shouldn't be making changes to dependency
>>> versions so close to a release.  This is consistent with other types of
>>> changes that could have a potentially large blast radius
>>>
>>>  I don't have a strong opinion on what version we end up with though
>> (would
>>> need to do more research on compatibility guarantees)
>>>
>>> Micah
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, Neal Richardson <
>> neal.p.richard...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:11 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 07/10/2020 à 21:55, Neal Richardson a écrit :
>>>>>> * The only version that is a requirement is
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/8325/files#diff-2420b0c5b6bdad921f1d538f92d64b59R2516
>>>>> ,
>>>>>> and so that's the one we're concerned about increasing. If we can
>> keep
>>>> it
>>>>>> low with an #ifdef, great. That said, I have no idea how slow
>> people
>>>> are
>>>>> to
>>>>>> update gRPC, or even what constitutes "old", so I can't say how
>> much
>>>>> extra
>>>>>> complication it is worth to support old versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the gRPC version provided by Ubuntu 20.04 is 1.16.1.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/master/cpp/cmake_modules/ThirdpartyToolchain.cmake#L2509
>>>> ,
>>>> we already require 1.17, which is newer than that. And we've required
>> that
>>>> for the last year:
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow/commit/a70cf783364b140cab172e1851b563295c46e333
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> * However, provided that the bundled build_grpc cmake macro works
>>>> (surely
>>>>>> we test that somewhere right?), if someone has
>>>>> ARROW_DEPENDENCY_SOURCE=AUTO
>>>>>> *and* they have old gRPC on their system, instead of a build
>> failure
>>>>>> they'll just get a slower build with the bundled grpc included.
>> That's
>>>>> not
>>>>>> a bad experience, and if the user doesn't like it, presumably they
>> can
>>>>>> upgrade system gRPC and rebuild.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you upgrade system gRPC without potentially breaking other
>>>>> packages that rely on it?  If it's a system library, it's generally
>>>>> recommended to follow system-dictated lifecycles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not saying that we should ensure compatibility with antiquated
>>>>> versions of gRPC, but being incompatible with the version provided by
>>>>> Ubuntu 20.04 (a 6-month old distribution) may be exaggerated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> 
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