Farr, Aaron wrote:

NOTICE: Moving this part of the thread over from the PMC list.  Since
Stephen suggested it, I assume he is fine with me quoting his previously
PMC-posted messages.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh please - lets focus on facts. The complete framework documentation is under the site.


Not true.  The documentation is not complete.  I've already pointed this out
in earlier emails.  I'm not going to rehash it here.


This noise is not about any technical issue - it is
about positioning.


Yes, some of it is about "positioning."

I'm getting the impression that this is that this is all about positioning.

It is about not positioning our users into the garbage bin.

Please - that's plain silly.

It is about not throwing away all the old
documentation and work others have done.  It is about respecting the voices
of our users and peers.

Just for the record - the old documentation of which you fondly referring to is composed of a bunch of pages describing IOC concepts, one page describing the lifecycle, and the javadoc. The entire IOC concept stuff is available here:


http://avalon.apache.org/central/cop/index.html

But you know this already so I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is. You also know that the lifecycle documentation has been massively improved and is presented here:

http://avalon.apache.org/products/runtime/reference/component/lifecycle/index.html

And lastly - the APIs - as you already know are available here:

http://avalon.apache.org/avalon/runtime/3.3.0/api/index.html

So call me stupid - but when someone claims that its all gone, I kind of have a hard time rationalizing the assertion. Umm, smells of politics if you ask me because nothing technical is being presented. It's all noise created by a couple of people not so keen on seeing framework development.

Ok - we can live with that.

Cheers, Steve.

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