+1 to user-centric view.

Agree with Alan - if we keep a steady cadence with the branch cuts then it
can just be on us to optimize our process for getting it shipped.

I don't think users are too bothered by exact time gap unless it is too
slow, so if this puts some at 4 weeks or even 2 weeks no one will be upset.
It is also nice if there is a comparable amount of change between releases,
another reason to branch every 6 weeks. And finally, if there is a
contributor that is implementing something and wants to get it to users, it
should be able to arrive in <= 6 weeks. That means that if a release sits
on a branch/review for a long time, it should not really slow down other
things done on master in that time.

Kenn


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM Alan Myrvold <[email protected]> wrote:

> It would be a more predictable cadence to have a consistent timing between
> when the release branches are cut, and not when the release is published.
>
> If 2.5.0 was cut on June 5, then 2.6.0 could be cut July 17?
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:57 AM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> JB, thank you for making this release happen.
>>>
>>> I noticed that python artifacts are not deployed to pypi yet. Would you
>>> like me to do that?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ahmet
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:45 AM, Rafael Fernandez <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great news! Thanks so much to our Release Manager and everybody who
>>>> helped iron out the wrinkles!
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't seen it already, look for the thread "[PROPOSAL] Add a
>>>> blog post for Beam release 2.5.0
>>>> ​" [1]​
>>>> in dev@  - Alexey Romanenko has put together a very nice summary of
>>>> all the good stuff in 2.5.0.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ae3284ca051b800b3edd73ad0f7f62344e26d3957b46794149bf1fb2@%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 8:33 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I meant August (not July) for next release cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/06/2018 05:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm happy to announce that we have unanimously approved this release.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There are 12 approving votes, 5 of which are binding:
>>>>> > * Ahmet Altay
>>>>> > * Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> > * Lukasz Cwik
>>>>> > * Reuven Lax
>>>>> > * Robert Bradshaw
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There are no disapproving votes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm finalizing the release.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks everyone!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The 2.6.0 release process is expected to begin in 6 weeks. So we
>>>>> should
>>>>> > start the Jira triage on Saturday, 4th July and I would like to start
>>>>> > the release process on Tuesday 7th.
>>>>>
>>>>
>> My understanding was that there will be a release every 6 weeks. It seems
>> like with this plan (to start release process on August 7), the
>> understanding is that we will have 6 weeks between a release is out and the
>> start of the next release process. My take is, we need to have a user
>> centric view and a make promise to release every X weeks. If X=6 is not
>> sustainable we can discuss. However, having X weeks in between a release
>> cut and release start will result in unpredictable release dates.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> > JB
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 17/06/2018 07:18, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi everyone,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Please review and vote on the release candidate #2 for the version
>>>>> >> 2.5.0, as follows:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [ ] +1, Approve the release
>>>>> >> [ ] -1, Do not approve the release (please provide specific
>>>>> comments)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> NB: this is the first release using Gradle, so don't be too harsh
>>>>> ;) A
>>>>> >> PR about the release guide will follow thanks to this release.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The complete staging area is available for your review, which
>>>>> includes:
>>>>> >> * JIRA release notes [1],
>>>>> >> * the official Apache source release to be deployed to
>>>>> dist.apache.org
>>>>> >> [2], which is signed with the key with fingerprint C8282E76 [3],
>>>>> >> * all artifacts to be deployed to the Maven Central Repository [4],
>>>>> >> * source code tag "v2.5.0-RC2" [5],
>>>>> >> * website pull request listing the release and publishing the API
>>>>> >> reference manual [6].
>>>>> >> * Java artifacts were built with Gradle 4.7 (wrapper) and
>>>>> OpenJDK/Oracle
>>>>> >> JDK 1.8.0_172 (Oracle Corporation 25.172-b11).
>>>>> >> * Python artifacts are deployed along with the source release to the
>>>>> >> dist.apache.org [2].
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. It is adopted by
>>>>> majority
>>>>> >> approval, with at least 3 PMC affirmative votes.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>> >> JB
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [1]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12319527&version=12342847
>>>>> >> [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/beam/2.5.0/
>>>>> >> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/beam/KEYS
>>>>> >> [4]
>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebeam-1043/
>>>>> >> [5] https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/v2.5.0-RC2
>>>>> >> [6] https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/463
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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