For snapshots, we could use gcr.io. Permission would not be a problem since
Jenkins is already correctly setup. The cost will be covered under
apache-beam-testing project. And since this is only for snapshots, it will
be only for temporary artifacts not for release artifacts.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:50 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <valen...@google.com>
wrote:

> +1, releasing containers is a useful process that we need to build in Beam
> and it is required for FnApi users. Among other reasons, having
> officially-released Beam SDK harness container images will make it easier
> for users to do simple customizations to  container images, as they will be
> able to use container image released by Beam as a base image.
>
> Good point about potential storage limitations on Bintray. With Beam
> Release cadence we may quickly exceed the 10 GB quota. It may also affect
> our decisions as to which images we want to release, for example: do we
> want to only release one container image with Python 3 interpreter, or do
> we want to release a container image for each Python 3 minor version that
> Beam is compatible with.
>

Probably worth a separate discussion. I would favor first releasing a
python 3 compatible version before figuring out how we would target
multiple python 3 versions.


>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:48 PM Ankur Goenka <goe...@google.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:37 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ankur Goenka <goe...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> - Could we start from snapshots first and then do it for releases?
>>>> +1, releasing snapsots first makes sense to me.
>>>> - For snapshots, do we need to clean old containers after a while?
>>>> Otherwise I guess we will accumulate lots of containers.
>>>> For snap shots we can maintain a single snapshot image from git HEAD
>>>> daily. Docker has the internal image container id which changes everytime
>>>> an image is changed and pulls new images as needed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a potential use this may not work with. If a user picks up a
>>> snaphsot build and want to use it until the next release arrives. I guess
>>> in that case the user can copy the snapshotted container image and rely on
>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, that should be reasonable.
>>
>>> - Do we also need additional code changes for snapshots and releases to
>>>> default to these specific containers? There could be a version based
>>>> mechanism to resolve the correct container to use.
>>>> The current image defaults have username in it. We should be ok by just
>>>> updating the default image url to published image url.
>>>>
>>>> We should also check for pricing and details about Apache-Bintray
>>>> agreement before pushing images and changing defaults.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is information on bintray's pricing page about open source
>>> projects [1]. I do not know if there is a special apache-bintray agreement
>>> or not. If there is no special agreement there is a 10GB storage limit for
>>> using bintray.
>>>
>> As each image can easily run into Gigs, 10GB might not be sufficient for
>> future proofing.
>> We can also register docker image to docker image registry and not have
>> bintray in the name to later host images on a different vendor for future
>> proofing.
>>
>>
>>> [1] https://bintray.com/account/pricing?tab=account&type=pricing
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:11 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This sounds like a good idea. Some questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Could we start from snapshots first and then do it for releases?
>>>>> - For snapshots, do we need to clean old containers after a while?
>>>>> Otherwise I guess we will accumulate lots of containers.
>>>>> - Do we also need additional code changes for snapshots and releases
>>>>> to default to these specific containers? There could be a version based
>>>>> mechanism to resolve the correct container to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:42 PM Ankur Goenka <goe...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As portability/FnApi is taking shape and are compatible with ULR and
>>>>>> Flink. I wanted to discuss the release plan release of SDKHarness Docker
>>>>>> images. Of-course users can create their own images but it will be useful
>>>>>> to have a default image available out of box.
>>>>>> Pre build image are a must for making FnApi available for users and
>>>>>> not just the developers.
>>>>>> The other purpose of these images is to be server as base image layer
>>>>>> for building custom images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache already have bintray repositories for beam.
>>>>>> https://bintray.com/apache/beam-snapshots-docker
>>>>>> https://bintray.com/apache/beam-docker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shall we start pushing Python/Java/Go SDK Harness containers to
>>>>>> https://bintray.com/apache/beam-docker for beam release and maintain
>>>>>> daily snapshot at https://bintray.com/apache/beam-snapshots-docker ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ankur
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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