On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
<aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.

Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> More logos :D
>>
>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>>
>>  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> > Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
>> > they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
>> > (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
>> > the logo into the trailing beam of light.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dcava...@google.com> 
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also 
>> >>>>> cute.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> 
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one 
>> >>>>>>> image
>> >>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> >>>>>>> (2) and (9).
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>> Max
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough 
>> >>>>>>>> sketches,
>> >>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -Max
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>    _/
>> >>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcwea...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:kcwea...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>      Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with 
>> >>>>>>>>> trout, but
>> >>>>>>>>>      the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a 
>> >>>>>>>>> "robot
>> >>>>>>>>>      dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> >>>>>>>>> revisiting?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>      On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>      <mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>          My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>          On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni 
>> >>>>>>>>> <r...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>          <mailto:r...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >>>>>>>>>              <k...@apache.org <mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if 
>> >>>>>>>>> they are
>> >>>>>>>>>                  taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: 
>> >>>>>>>>> Apache
>> >>>>>>>>>                  projects, big data, log processing, stream 
>> >>>>>>>>> processing.
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So 
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>                  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely 
>> >>>>>>>>> nginx is
>> >>>>>>>>>                  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the 
>> >>>>>>>>> art is
>> >>>>>>>>>                  different.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >>>>>>>>>                  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >>>>>>>>>                  non-extinct infraorder within suborder 
>> >>>>>>>>> Strepsirrhini. I
>> >>>>>>>>>                  think there's enough room for another mascot with 
>> >>>>>>>>> big
>> >>>>>>>>>                  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the 
>> >>>>>>>>> designer's art
>> >>>>>>>>>                  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Kenn
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat 
>> >>>>>>>>> kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                  <aizha...@apache.org 
>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then 
>> >>>>>>>>> lemur is
>> >>>>>>>>>                      also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      Personally, I don't think it matters much 
>> >>>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>>                      mascots are taken, as long as the project is 
>> >>>>>>>>> not too
>> >>>>>>>>>                      close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's 
>> >>>>>>>>> good to
>> >>>>>>>>>                      just get all ideas out. We should still 
>> >>>>>>>>> consider
>> >>>>>>>>>                      hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't 
>> >>>>>>>>> look
>> >>>>>>>>>                      nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      And thanks for reaching out to designers, 
>> >>>>>>>>> Max. To
>> >>>>>>>>>                      your point:
>> >>>>>>>>>                       >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >>>>>>>>>                       >once we have consensus on the type of 
>> >>>>>>>>> mascot?
>> >>>>>>>>>                      My thinking is that the designer will come up 
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>                      few sketches, then we vote on one here in the 
>> >>>>>>>>> dev@
>> >>>>>>>>> list.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      [2]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian 
>> >>>>>>>>> Michels
>> >>>>>>>>>                      <m...@apache.org <mailto:m...@apache.org>> 
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Quick update: The mentioned designer has 
>> >>>>>>>>> gotten
>> >>>>>>>>>                          back to me and offered
>> >>>>>>>>>                          to sketch something until the end of the 
>> >>>>>>>>> week.
>> >>>>>>>>>                          I've pointed him to this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread and the existing logo material:
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          [I don't want to interrupt the discussion 
>> >>>>>>>>> in any
>> >>>>>>>>>                          way, I just think
>> >>>>>>>>>                          having something concrete will help us to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          eventually decide what we want.]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels 
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > How about fireflies in the Beam light 
>> >>>>>>>>> rays? ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with 
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes such as a lemur
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > I love the lemur idea because it has 
>> >>>>>>>>> almost
>> >>>>>>>>>                          orange eyes.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>> >>>>>>>>>                          recently talked to a designer
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > which is somewhat famous for creating 
>> >>>>>>>>> logos.
>> >>>>>>>>>                          He was inclined to work on
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > a software project logo. Of course 
>> >>>>>>>>> there is a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          little bit of a price tag
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > attached, though the quote sounded 
>> >>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > It raises the general question, how do 
>> >>>>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>>>>                          arrive at a concrete design
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > once we have consensus on the type of 
>> >>>>>>>>> mascot?
>> >>>>>>>>>                          I believe there are also
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > designers working at companies using 
>> >>>>>>>>> Beam ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Max
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov 
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with 
>> >>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes (with beams of light shooting 
>> >>>>>>>>> out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          them), such as a lemur [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> or an owl.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Knowles <k...@apache.org 
>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:k...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> <mailto:k...@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:k...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Direct connections often have
>> >>>>>>>>>                          duplicates. For example in the log
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     processing space, there is
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     I like a flying squirrel, but 
>> >>>>>>>>> Flink
>> >>>>>>>>>                          already is a squirrel.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any 
>> >>>>>>>>> source of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          confusion for this one.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Kenn
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM 
>> >>>>>>>>> Robert
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Burke <rob...@frantil.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     <mailto:rob...@frantil.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         As both a Canadian, and the 
>> >>>>>>>>> resident
>> >>>>>>>>>                          fan of a programming
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         language with a rodent 
>> >>>>>>>>> mascot, I
>> >>>>>>>>>                          endorse this mascot.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM 
>> >>>>>>>>> David
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcava...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:dcava...@google.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcava...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:dcava...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could 
>> >>>>>>>>> be a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 
>> >>>>>>>>> 3:33 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizha...@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of 
>> >>>>>>>>> creating
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple 
>> >>>>>>>>> times
>> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through 
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in 
>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am 
>> >>>>>>>>> proposing
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams 
>> >>>>>>>>> out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close 
>> >>>>>>>>> to Beam
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t 
>> >>>>>>>>> like the
>> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you 
>> >>>>>>>>> think could
>> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others 
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM 
>> >>>>>>>>> David
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcava...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:dcava...@google.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcava...@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:dcava...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could 
>> >>>>>>>>> be a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 
>> >>>>>>>>> 3:33 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizha...@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of 
>> >>>>>>>>> creating
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple 
>> >>>>>>>>> times
>> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through 
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in 
>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am 
>> >>>>>>>>> proposing
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams 
>> >>>>>>>>> out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close 
>> >>>>>>>>> to Beam
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t 
>> >>>>>>>>> like the
>> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you 
>> >>>>>>>>> think could
>> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others 
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
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