Zitat von Vincent Thornley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I assume that the examples given above would also cover the case where the
> "author" is an organisation, e.g. a government or company report. I think
> there are two possibilities for handling this and I am not sure which route
> you have chosen to follow:
> 1. Use the organisation (or an abbreviation) as the creator name and sort as
> normal.
> 2. Leave the creator name blank in which case the sort algorithm will have
> to recognise the material type and if necessary use the organisation as the
> primary sort key (and of course for display in the citation).
>
> From a user's point I think the second method is preferable, but from the
> coders' perspective more involved.

If I am not completely mistaken, "creator" (or "name" in MODS3 therms) can refer
to both, personal names (e.g. our friend "John Doe"), corporate names (e.g.
"Friedrich Schiller University" or "Monsters Inc.") and conference names (e.g.
"ESA/Envisat conference 2004"). So, if the user interface follows this logic,
which I would suggest, it would be the first of your two routes.

---
Bruce wrote:

> <reftype name="article">
>    <sort>
>      <primary>creator</primary>
>      <secondary type="variable">container-title</secondary>
> <!-- "variable" is probably not the right value name, but I can't think
> of a better one -->
>    </sort>
>
> <reftype name="book">
>    <sort>
>      <primary>creator</primary>
>      <secondary type="text">Anonymous</secondary>
>    </sort>

Probably I havn't completely understand your logic behind this, but I would do
it the following way:

 <reftype name="article">
    <sort>
      <primary>
        <variable>creator</variable>
        <replacement type="text">Anonymous</replacement>
      </primary>
      <secondary>
        <variable>container-title</variable>
        <replacement type="visible">No title</replacement>
      </secondary>
    </sort>

 <reftype name="book">
    <sort>
      <primary>
        <variable>creator</variable>
        <replacement type="invisible">A</replacement>
      </primary>
      <secondary>
        <variable>year</variable>
        <replacement type="invisible" sortas="first"></replacement>
      </secondary>
    </sort>

The ideas behind this are:
- Always specify first and second sort key (+ maybe third?)
- Each sort key should have a "replacement" section that tells
  what to do if this variable is not available
- Replacement can be:
  (a) a visible text, that replaces the missing variable
      and is used for sorting
  (b) an invisible text that replaces the missing variable for sorting
  (c) if no replacement text is entered , the "sortas" field decides
      about sorting:  this could be
      sortas="first" (equivalent to"A"/"0") or
      sortas="last"  (something like "ZZZ..."/"9999" for words resp. numbers)
      In this case the variable is not shown in the reference list.

Example for (a) in case of "creator"
      -Andr�, S. (1993): ...
      -Anonymous (1997): ...     <- Visible replacement with "Anonymous "
      -Doe, J. (1993): ...
      -Wilson, D. (1992): ...
Example for (c) in the case of "year"
      -Doe, J. (1993): The unknown man. ...
      -Wilson, D.: The future of OOoBib. ...
                 ^ Invisible year replacement with sortas="first"
      -Wilson, D. (203) The early beginnings of OOoBib ...
      -Wilson, D. (1992) More on OOoBib. ...

Does this make sense to you?

Matthias Basler
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